BLM how to spend points effectively ?

[HaroldSaxon]

For a 5th Fire I while using Thunder II for the rotation, while a SCH in the party (I.e. most party's).

Makes the rotation smoother and imo more effective.

You can use a 5th fire anyway, you just have to use Thunder 1, which gives you a DPS increase on a quick mana tick, and means you just weave in a Blizzard 1 on a slow tick. On add phases, you can put two thunder 1's on different targets, because its always nice to get constant Thundercloud procs.

Imo, Thunder 1 + Blizzard 1 with more intelligence is more effective if you are running spellspeed. For Crit and Det, then I can see why people would want to put in Piety. However, there are plenty of better ways of getting the piety needed rather than sacrificing your main stat. For instance on an i90 Jewellery piece.