Doesn't it make more sense for Thaum. to have Raise/Rebirth II?

[allenshu]

Under the idea of initial phase of FFXIV, you need level both to create your ideal WHM or BLM. CON has element-specific actions including both enfeeble and damage types. THM has less but more general light/dark enfeeble and damage actions, plus status-specific enfeeble and DOT. To make a great magical damage as a BLM, you need combine actions from both classes to enfeeble a target's elemental resistance and enhance your own magic potency. Also, to heal your party members without delay, you need both fast cure and regen effect from sacrifice.

Now jobs will be introduced in the future. According to the released info, you may still need to level multiple classes to obtain one specific job title.

[Griss]

No. THM is more tipping towards Necromancy given certain quests which is a whole different ball park from reviving someone from unconsciousness.

I agree with this. from a story line perspective a thm tinkering with life and death is more likely to bring about a magical zombie apocalypse then it is a tear filled joyful reunion.

[Eldaena]

Now jobs will be introduced in the future. According to the released info, you may still need to level multiple classes to obtain one specific job title.

Where does it say that? I thought they said very simply that there would be one job per class, and not jobs per several classes (as of yet.)

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Skill wise and story wise it makes more sense for Thaum to be WHM. There only needs to be one revision to their description
"Thaumaturges are unparalleled in their powers of destruction"

Reversing these roles are like destroying each of the guild's lore without reassigning the guilds to different cities and revising every mention of them in the game to be cohesive.

How does it possibly make more sense when CON has always had spells like Cure, Protect, Shell, and Raise? These are all traditionally WHM spells. Based on this fact alone, why would anyone think that THM = WHM?

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Where does it say that? I thought they said very simply that there would be one job per class, and not jobs per several classes (as of yet.)

Yes. One class unlocks one job. BUT: It has been mentioned that they are looking into expanding on that system by unlocking another job by leveling 2 classes to 50. Yoshi specifically used WHM + BLM = RDM as his example.

[Eldaena]

Yes. One class unlocks one job. BUT: It has been mentioned that they are looking into expanding on that system by unlocking another job by leveling 2 classes to 50. Yoshi specifically used WHM + BLM = RDM as his example.

Wait, where did it ever say that ranking up a class to 50 unlocks a job? o.o

[allenshu]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...azine-Aug.2011

Interview from Famitsu Connect-On Magazine on Aug 2011

時期については明言できないが、特定の二つのクラスを一定ランクまであげると取得できる、複合ジョブも用意する。たとえば、幻術士と呪術士を両方育てると赤魔導士といった展開もあり得る。
Although the time is unknown, they are planning to have "combined job" which is obtained by two specified class over specified rank. For example, CON + THM = Red Mage.

将来的にジョブだけなく、"クラス"自体も増やす予定でいる。
In the future, not only jobs but also classes will be expanded.

[KaiKatzchen]

Maybe it was just me but I have always figured that CON was going to be the WHM seeing it has the Cures, Buffs, Silena etc... CON seems to be a mix of WHM and RDM when comparing spells. Now with all the advanced Raise spells it's going to get it even feels more so like WHM.

THAU to me always seems more a mix of RDM and DRK with all the absorption spells, dia, and such that it had. So I always figured it was going more the BLM route... also looking at some of the spells

CON R1 = Spirit Dart (Light Element Attack)
THAU R1 = Phantom Dart (Shadow Attack)

CON R10 = Radiance (Sear an enemy with celestial brilliance, dealing astral damage.) Light Side
THAU R10 = Damnation (Haunt an enemy with visions of the hells, dealing umbral damage.) Dark Side

Also CON gets:
Resonance 26 = Incant in a sonorous tone
Roaming Soul 30 = Cast in an echoing hum
Profundity II 34 = Enunciate and project

Seems to me to be more calming magic, where is whispering, speaking or talking... more light side.

Thau gets:
Initiation 22 = Bestow your strengths on another
Paradigam Shift 30 = Amplify your voice
Blood Rite II 34 = Spill your own blood in a sacrificial rite

Seems to me more, yelling and sacrificing.. which tends to be more towards a darker side especially sacrificial rites.

Also:

CON: Nature's Fury 40 = Using nature and launching an elemental attack

Vs.

Thau: Shadowfall 40 = Using Darker magic and launching a shadowy attack

etc... etc... etc...


I have personally always felt that THAU was more towards the darker side, while CON seems to me more towards the light and nature side.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Wait, where did it ever say that ranking up a class to 50 unlocks a job? o.o

*sigh* Multiple places. First mentioned in one of the letters from the producer.

[Naylia]

*sigh* Multiple places. First mentioned in one of the letters from the producer.

Wrong...I'm pretty sure bayhone specifically clarified that the jobs would unlock before 50....