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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernsky View Post
    Well I don't think you should penalize native abilities, but I think increasing AP cost for "cross-classing" would be a good idea. That being said, as pointed out before, they may get rid of the AP system for native abilities.
    Don't get me wrong, I think this would be a good idea but would that mean you could equip every native ability you have?

    Is that the right way to go? Maybe...
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darium View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I think this would be a good idea but would that mean you could equip every native ability you have?

    Is that the right way to go? Maybe...
    I don't see why not. After all, you're already limited to however many slots are on your action bar. You won't possibly be able to equip all your abilities even without the additional AP requirement.

    Knowhutimsayin'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Simple solution to that: Don't wipe.

    If you wipe it means you screwed up. Deal with it.
    Really this was the best anwser you could come up with this is just not possible, but hell with this idea why not just get rid of rasie you die you just get a penalty
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Knowhutimsayin'?
    I do and I cannot argue with your logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernsky View Post
    Well I don't think you should penalize native abilities, but I think increasing AP cost for "cross-classing" would be a good idea. That being said, as pointed out before, they may get rid of the AP system for native abilities.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    This is the proper way to go.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darium View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I think this would be a good idea but would that mean you could equip every native ability you have?

    Is that the right way to go? Maybe...
    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    I don't see why not. After all, you're already limited to however many slots are on your action bar. You won't possibly be able to equip all your abilities even without the additional AP requirement.

    Knowhutimsayin'?
    I think we may have hit upon something here. So much so that I think it worthy of a new thread. I'm not saying I'm 100% on-board with this idea, but it's definitely worth discussing and bringing up to the Development Team in it's own right.

    Someone make a new thread for this idea please!
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    Last edited by Sorel; 07-14-2011 at 11:50 PM.

  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by akisato View Post
    Really this was the best anwser you could come up with this is just not possible, but hell with this idea why not just get rid of rasie you die you just get a penalty
    Eekiki is correct in a way, the state the dungeon-raiding will be at release date is: Dont wipe or you are screwed.
    Until someone has ability to re-raise inside the dungeon.

    1-3 party member dying is a completely diffrent thing.
    Cuz at this point anyone that has raise can easily equip it & use it.

    Not saying im against wipes, (hell wipes are fun & a learning experience) but
    the current given information mentions nothing on "If we wipe, wth will happen" etc.
    Or even if there's a cooldown on being able to enter the dungeon again.
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    Last edited by Laughlyn; 07-14-2011 at 11:52 PM.

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  7. #137
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    The difference between r14 and r20 is 1hour of grinding, go cry some more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akisato View Post
    Really this was the best anwser you could come up with this is just not possible, but hell with this idea why not just get rid of rasie you die you just get a penalty
    Oh, give me a break! Is it impossible, or are you simply not skilled enough?

    SE cannot design dungeons with the idea that, "Okay, at this point no matter what happens everyone in the party has to die and spend half an hour recovering." You can see that's ridiculous, can't you?
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    I don't see why not. After all, you're already limited to however many slots are on your action bar. You won't possibly be able to equip all your abilities even without the additional AP requirement.
    I had another thought and instead of editing my other post, I'll put it here.

    Now I have 0 experience with combat, but how many slots do you get? Will that limitation REALLY make a difference at rank 14-25?
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    Carzilla Dequinto
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    yeah its too low
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