Raise/Ressurect too low

[Ichi]

5min recast! Death Penalty (its just durability but oh well) you guys complaining about easy vs hard.. i'm with you but your not looking at the important part here. Once jobs come out only a class and a whm will be able to raise you effectively sure you can take a subpar res from a thaum or their job offspring but this is actually making the game 'harder', i put it in quotes because of how that term is constantly argued. lol Idk what it is im after but the easiest term to use is harder if you dont agree i don't care.

[PSxpert2011]

I use to like it when SE stuck to their "guns" without a whimper. It's not if they really care what "we" think, their doing it for their own gain. So to say, "We're going to drop the "raise ability" to rank 5, what do you think community?" ...Not going to happen! When did we ever get a say in the matter??

So */slap to all you Rank50 Cons from Alpha/Beta, */slap to all you Gladiators (with R50 Con) because the hard work you done is not being replaced with anything cooler than a raise spell you now can get @ r14.

So while it's still free to play, they're catering to make the best FF game ever, all the while taking the challenge we all tested it for since BETA and what most of us veterans are used to is now being founded "BORING". By the time it is pay to play, there might not be added content, nothing new to see or do and surely no new areas to visit or mobs to fight.

Is there still no poll feature in this thing, I think it would provide better feedback to SE,FFXIV-dev team if they're so incline.

What do you think?

SE: "Thank you for playing, how you continue to enjoy the world of Eorzea after we start charging, teehee". =3

[Zarvlad]

i use to like it when SE stuck to their "guns" without a whimper. It's not if they really care what "we" think, their doing it for their own gain. So to say, "We're going to drop the "raise ability" to rank 5, what do you think community?" ...Not going to happen!
So */slap to all you Rank50 Cons from Alpha/Beta, */slap to all you Gladiators (with R50 Con) because the hard work you done is not being replaced with anything cooler than a raise spell you now can get @ r14.
SE: "Thank you for playing, how you continue to enjoy the world of Eorzea after we start charging, teehee". =3

Raise II -New-
Restore the breath of life, reviving a KO’d target. Weakness and Brink of Death effects last for 1 minute.

Learned: Conjurer, Rank 38
Cast Time: 10s
Recast Time: 2.5 min.
MP Cost: 186
Exclusive to conjurer.

Rebirth -New-
Restore the breath of life, reviving a KO’d target. Target suffers no Weakness or Brink of Death effects.

Learned: Conjurer, Rank 50
Cast Time: 10s
Recast Time: 30 min.
MP Cost: 231
Exclusive to conjurer.

Why are you saying they are not getting anything?

[Arcell]

So */slap to all you Rank50 Cons from Alpha/Beta, */slap to all you Gladiators (with R50 Con) because the hard work you done is not being replaced with anything cooler than a raise spell you now can get @ r14.[/I]

ITT: Entitled children whining about their "hard work" going to waste. Your class is more than a few abilities, you worked to get R50 and everything that came with it and nothing is being taken away. In fact Conjurer is actually getting MORE.

MMOs change over time, original decisions are changed. Things that were once "harder" often become "easier" for one reason or another. It doesn't cheapen the fact that you did it, it just allows other people to do it too. If you can't handle that then you've got some serious problems. Not directed at anyone in particular, just all of those who cry about their hard work being for naught.

[Raze]

So */slap to all you Rank50 Cons from Alpha/Beta, */slap to all you Gladiators (with R50 Con) because the hard work you done is not being replaced with anything cooler than a raise spell you now can get @ r14.

Ok, it's gone one step back again from "we're in beta" now to "you're denying people who played alpha and beta", they were playing a game that hadn't even released yet, knowing they wouldn't be able to keep any achievements and that they very well may(and probably would) be changed.

A Glad with a 50 con wants Cure III, raise isn't an issue. If you wanted it previously, getting raise the THM way threw in emulate at 40, which as we all know will prevent many more deaths than any raise would have made up for. Raise at 14 isn't good, nor bad. It's simply appropriate. I find it hard to believe how adamant people seriously feel about content they've never so much as experienced.

Plus, if your tank is raising someone, that tank has done two things wrong. He/She has let someone other than themselves die, and they wasted much of the little MP they have and a full 10 seconds when they should be tanking to raise someone. And please don't bring up any situation where the GLA is the last one standing, that's just a horrible thought.

Once the new content is actually something you can experience I bet it will make a little more sense.

edit: typo sry ^^

[SakuraHadoken]

I don't see a problem with raise 1 and 2 being at those levels and like people said, it doesn't really make the game easier. If you return to the camp its pretty much the same thing you just gotta walk back to to where the mobs were. Having raise at a lower level really just makes game play more smooth and saves people from returning to camps, then again this is my opinion haha.

[Vahzl]

I use to like it when SE stuck to their "guns" without a whimper. It's not if they really care what "we" think, their doing it for their own gain. So to say, "We're going to drop the "raise ability" to rank 5, what do you think community?" ...Not going to happen! When did we ever get a say in the matter??

So */slap to all you Rank50 Cons from Alpha/Beta, */slap to all you Gladiators (with R50 Con) because the hard work you done is not being replaced with anything cooler than a raise spell you now can get @ r14.

So while it's still free to play, they're catering to make the best FF game ever, all the while taking the challenge we all tested it for since BETA and what most of us veterans are used to is now being founded "BORING". By the time it is pay to play, there might not be added content, nothing new to see or do and surely no new areas to visit or mobs to fight.

Is there still no poll feature in this thing, I think it would provide better feedback to SE,FFXIV-dev team if they're so incline.

What do you think?

SE: "Thank you for playing, how you continue to enjoy the world of Eorzea after we start charging, teehee". =3

The biggest mistake SE ever made (besides FFXIV) was giving us a place to whine about it.

[Andrien]

Raise used to be Lv75 for PLD in FFXI then they dropped it down to Lv50. I really don't see the point of this QQ thread

[PSxpert2011]

I mean, there's no reason for raise @ 14. What's everyones rush?? You get raise, weakened... you HP, weakened!! Time to run back to the battle spot and your fine. Dungeons have gates to HP to but WTF will r.14 player going to do there if not to die and HP back, run back in time, your weakness is gone.

That's giving Con just less usability then ever. I know not many people enjoy the class and prefer to stab and slash but for players who put their all into Con all the way to r.50 or so, it's too early and too low a rank to give access to raise. So if you're a Marauder @ r.30, most likely you'll have raise already, so make it r.25 because at 20-30, WTF you going and what you fighting??

I can give many reasons why but it'll still be my opinion and it shortens the lifespan of the game, takes away the challenge and caters to casuals too much. I mean veterans like me seem to be sceptic on what else will "they" do to this game just bring in more non-RPG players, who will later just say, "Meh, this games too boring", and never come back.

It's not just easier now from rank 1-10 and so on, "it's so easy, a caveman can do it!" Beware SE, Geico's watching you!

[TirionCrey]

I mean, there's no reason for raise @ 14. What's everyones rush?? You get raise, weakened... you HP, weakened!! Time to run back to the battle spot and your fine. Dungeons have gates to HP to but WTF will r.14 player going to do there if not to die and HP back, run back in time, your weakness is gone.

That's giving Con just less usability then ever. I know not many people enjoy the class and prefer to stab and slash but for players who put their all into Con all the way to r.50 or so, it's too early and too low a rank to give access to raise. So if you're a Marauder @ r.30, most likely you'll have raise already, so make it r.25 because at 20-30, WTF you going and what you fighting??

I can give many reasons why but it'll still be my opinion and it shortens the lifespan of the game, takes away the challenge and caters to casuals too much. I mean veterans like me seem to be sceptic on what else will "they" do to this game just bring in more non-RPG players, who will later just say, "Meh, this games too boring", and never come back.

It's not just easier now from rank 1-10 and so on, "it's so easy, a caveman can do it!" Beware SE, Geico's watching you!

I fail to see what you're trying to say <.<
Either its your poor sentence building skills, or it's just the thing that you don't know how to actually express what you think properly...

The one thing I can tell for sure is, you are blind to the fact that CON is getting Raise 2 and Rebirth which gives them a usability in the game they never had and now it actually makes sense to play as a CON50 instead of a THM50.