Spirit Binding In Syrcus Tower Needs To Stop

[Yukiko]

I do spiritbond in dungeons but I switch 1 or 2 items due to the fact that switching more than 2 does have huge difference on my damage output already.
If the guy switch 2/3 of his gear and don't switch back even after the wipe then it is ok to kick him because it does apply to "harrasment" - he purposely does not contribute to party effort to beat instance.

So you blame "ONE" player with SB gear because you wipe on mechanics who require 3x4 players on platforms?
I guess thats not harassment, no, really, not!
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Just one example, depending on Dungeon mechanics

It depends on situation, but you first have to prove that he/she is really not helping the party and it is really his/her fault that the party wiped...

[Sapphic]

You people are the reason we can't have nice things.

Grow the hell up.

So you would be fine with the tanks switching to level 35 gear because they want ot SB materia 2s? The healers switching to crafting/gathering gear? The melee DPS switching to MND/INT gear? casters switching to low level STR/DEX gear?

If one person in the 24 switches to full crafting/low level gear to SB. Then why not the rest of the 23 people switch to the same too.

That would go very well wouldn't it.

[HakuroDK]

So you would be fine with the tanks switching to level 35 gear because they want ot SB materia 2s? The healers switching to crafting/gathering gear? The melee DPS switching to MND/INT gear? casters switching to low level STR/DEX gear?

If one person in the 24 switches to full crafting/low level gear to SB. Then why not the rest of the 23 people switch to the same too.

That would go very well wouldn't it.

I am a tank and I often go Main Tank anyway, so as long as I get healed the adequate amount, I don't give a crap how many people I carry because my objective is to clear the dungeon, not police the crap out of my party members' gear choices.

The reason I feel I have to ragequit is because, 50% of the time I go into ST, I get this one asshole who thinks it's acceptable behavior to bitch everyone else out for being incompotent, that guy is in a different alliance in the raid, and I can't even blist that person. It's unacceptable behavior and I won't stand for it.

[Escadora]

You people are the reason we can't have nice things.

If people are spiritbinding stuff, so what? As long as their ilvl meets the ilvl of the dungeon, there shouldn't be a problem.

Probably the most logical point in this thread. If you meet the ilvl requirement then why does it matter? So much whining in this thread.

[raelgun]

Probably the most logical point in this thread. If you meet the ilvl requirement then why does it matter? So much whining in this thread.

dunno about you, but the post you quoted is the one thats whining the most, most others are having a calm debate.

[Exguard]

Probably the most logical point in this thread. If you meet the ilvl requirement then why does it matter? So much whining in this thread.

until that mindset is spread across the whole ST and everyone is in the raid with crafting gear even though they meet the "ilvl requirement". Were you the person in High School that when assigned a group project with other classmates you made them do all the work which was double the effort since you brought little to nothing to the table and was able to get the credit for it and own beneficial gain even though you did practically nothing.

[Escadora]

until that mindset is spread across the whole ST and everyone is in the raid with crafting gear even though they meet the "ilvl requirement". Were you the person in High School that when assigned a group project with other classmates you made them do all the work which was double the effort since you brought little to nothing to the table and was able to get the credit for it and own beneficial gain even though you did practically nothing.

Nope, I actually wasn't! I appreciate the baseless assumption, though. It was cute.

I'm not even guilty of spirit-binding in CT or ST. I've seen my fair share of it in these instances as well and you know what? I just don't think it's a big deal. If people are spirit-binding with their appropriate class stats, and they meet the ilvl req. It's not a big deal. I still clear the content, and move on. CT/ST is not a serious raid at all so I don't feel the need to rip someone apart because they spirit bind in it.

dunno about you, but the post you quoted is the one thats whining the most, most others are having a calm debate.

I was talking about that specific point, there's a reason I highlighted it.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

I just don't think it's a big deal. If people are spirit-binding with their appropriate class stats, and they meet the ilvl req. It's not a big deal. I still clear the content, and move on.

And if they aren't? Go look at the picture the OP showed and try to tell me that's in any way appropriate gear. I have no problem with spiritbinding in Crystal Tower raids or even hardmode roulette dungeons (I did it a fair few times myself to spiritbond my Astral accessories) but it needs to be gear that makes actual sense.

Funny thing about this, is once we get addons, someone for sure is going to make one of these. Yoshi even commented recently that addons will have access to data the client receives, like damage data.

Additionally, I believe there was also talk of adding DPS meter functionality to striking dummies, albeit ones that could only be viewed by the attacking player.

[ParanoidHobo]

angry holier than thou ranting

Making the ilvl requirement doesn't matter if you're doing it with gear that has no relevant stats to your class.

I agree that there's no reason to cause a scene if you're succeeding in spite of people using inappropriate gear, but if your group is failing because of it I don't think it's out of line to demand these people put on their proper gear or get out.

[Eidolon]

Just disable spiritbonding in ST. Seriously, this should've been obvious to SE by now.

I mean, theoretically speaking, what if I make a party finder for 'crafter gear ST! Come join for maximum carries!" We get 8 people. We all take a set of armor.

We get into ST. And we all switch to Craftsman's i50 gear. Not only are we below-cap, we are not even using something that gives us stats - we might as well be ilevel 10 at that point.