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  1. #11
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by echoica View Post
    Leves would be a great solution. It's not the farming I care about so much it's the option to just participate. Most people are lucky to even arrive on time let alone get a hit in for credit. The end game fcs are completely dominating the hunts with the use of the cheating app.
    Absolutely agree with the leve/treasure map solution.

    And yes, certain FC's are completely dominating these by cheating. There's one particular FC on my server that I believe is doing so.
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  2. #12
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Karyou View Post
    So long as a limit is implemented, yes. People would still be endlessly farming them and ignoring other content to gear up too quickly so long as they aren't limited. But, yes, this would solve many of the issues regarding them.
    Maybe if the leves cost points

    50 points for rank B NM leve
    150 points for rank A NM leve
    450 points for a rank S NM leve

    Need to do first a rank B leve before you can buy a rank A leve and first a rank A leve before you can buy a rank S leve.

    points can be earned in FATEs
    Lv1-20 FATEs = 1 point
    Lv21-40 FATEs = 5 points
    Lv41-50 FATEs = 10 points

    The Hunt can then be looking like this
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXQ-lrJvvs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K565__8vz0
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-18-2014 at 04:20 AM.

  3. #13
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    AmyNeudaiz's Avatar
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Excalibur
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    Oh no please no more FATE related content. We have enough thank you.
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  4. #14
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    Nep Nep
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I agree. I think they should be made like Treasure maps. Maybe they could work like Dailies. At least for S rank ones. Maybe B and A could be bought with alot of seals and Myth? But I was thinking you get one from doing a roulette(or buying it) go to the area the map tells you then fight the monster. B rank could recommend one member. A rank could be 4 and S could be 8. People could get their seals and stop fighting over claiming, pulling, etc. They'd all have their own hunt monster to kill. Instead of it looking like a treasure map it could look like a wanted poster. Since you're hunting.

    Sorry if the idea is stupid. But I agree. I think them at least being somewhat difficult treasure maps could help. People could still call for help and enjoy the open world and stuff.
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  5. #15
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Excalibur
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    There's a very simple way it can work - you go out and get your mark papers like you do now but it leads you to a location (similar to maps) and you kill your Mark. No more competition. No more cheating. No more frustration.

    B rank - Solo
    A rank - Light Party
    S rank - Full Party
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  6. #16
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Something that I've noticed - you could activate a hunt like a Leve and still need to search the entire area for a monster, and it would still have the feeling of going out and looking for a monster. You can even add a time limit to add an element of pressure to the hunt.

    With a similar Leve system, you can also implement behaviors to the monster, like, it fleeing to reinforcements, or needing to be lured or trapped.

    If you wanted to make it competitive, you could even have a competitive style hunt that would give rewards to all participants, but greater/bonus rewards to the one who successfully 'trapped' the elite mark.

    This would be a far better solution than the current version, and could actually make hunts a fun activity that isn't toxic to the community. Unfortunately, the system as it is, just can't sustain the interest the rewards generate.
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  7. #17
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    You can not have a competitive open world mob with such a large community. It just doesn't work!
    If it were XI or 1.0 XIV then it would be manageable but this community is too large for these hunts to be free for all.
    The silliest thing is that the leve system would have been perfect for hunts.
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  8. #18
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Back in my day, we had a system in FFXIV called Faction Leves, which would pit us against NMs and "wanted" targets. Sadly though, people say FFXIV 1.0 and 1.23 did absolutely nothing correct.
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  9. #19
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    Hyrist's Avatar
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    Lin Celistine
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Back in my day, we had a system in FFXIV called Faction Leves, which would pit us against NMs and "wanted" targets. Sadly though, people say FFXIV 1.0 and 1.23 did absolutely nothing correct.
    People say a lot of things. It's best not to consider Hyperbole the actual course of conversation. The primary argument against 1.23 is that it ran on an broken system that was re-rigged to cater to an audience of roughly 30-60k people. The game now plays host to a potential over 2 million.

    I liked Faction Leves. I do feel, however that Grand Company Leves did a good job of approximating some of these.

    For Elite Marks to function like Faction Leves, however, would be a good idea.
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  10. #20
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    Kipling Pryderi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Back in my day, we had a system in FFXIV called Faction Leves, which would pit us against NMs and "wanted" targets. Sadly though, people say FFXIV 1.0 and 1.23 did absolutely nothing correct.
    If it was doing things correct it wouldn't have been shut down. That's the end of it, really.
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