i90 Crafted Rings for Warrior --> Is it worth it?

[Marxam]

I haven't tanked t8 yet. I have tanked up to t7. My philosophy with vit is to have max hp with defiance @ 9k; with 9k HP you can withstand every hit in the game after proper mitigation. After that everything goes into str because the extra Vit is wasted. I'm curious to hear from a warrior with full i110 how much vit they have when going full strength on the right side, as this is my option the true BiS for warrior. If using this gear setup they can obtain 9k hp after gear then I would rather go this route, than spend my gil on i90 rings that wouldn't have the same result.

Thank you for the numbers by the way. This is exactly what I was looking for, not antecdotal evidence or reports.

I would imagine 10k even, if you are a roe seawolf. I'm at 102 and I already have a bit over 9600 with defiance (30 vit). Nothing says I'm a boss tank like five digit hp.

[SirTaint]

They aren't needed at all. Unless you are in one of the few group that plan on doing savage coil.

T9 is tuned for around i100 and doable at less ilvl than that. T8 is already MTed in full str.

When 2.4 rolls around they are more then likely be very useful until then save your Gil.

[Ooshima]

Most definitely worth it and IMO best in slot by far.

My build: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5331858/

30 points into Str

I use Lava toad eggs for the little bit of acc i need. The only piece i do not have is the HA belt then i will be my version of BiS
my str is 533 and Vit over 570 in party with food. My HP pool of 9.7k which is more than needed to MT all the content. Also to note that Ruby is the way to go and not topaz, the reason for this is if you notice my SS is 421, and that seems to be the magic number to get in the extra hit from your opening unchained>Berserk>internal release combo.

I'm with you on this, my WAR is built the same way too. The SS on the accessories helps you to reach the 2.39GCD target because WAR's body armor are lacking in SS.

I would argue even 9k is excessive. Our WAR solo tanks T8 with full STR on right side and 30 STR allotment. Rarely ever has issues, has around 8k HP. Every other turn he's always full STR OT.

T6/T7 in particular are not very hard-hitting at all.

It is also about future proofing. That extra 1.5k HP or so allows some extra hit and at the same time, when 2.4 hits, the 1.5k HP will certainly be appreciated. Just like how the i70 crafted accessories were very helpful to WARs when SCoB was released.

[Shinkyo]

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Is skill speed really worth it? I'm kinda afraid to run out of TP on long fights like T5/T8.
I was gonna go for Topaz melded with 13 STR, 9 Acc, and a choice of 12 Crti/8 Det/ 12 SS
The alternative would be Ruby with 15 VIT, 9 Acc, and a choice of 12 Cri/8 Det/ 12 Parry

I just tend to think that Crit is better for WAR because of the wrath stacks and IR all stacking together. I've always considered SS to be a bad secondary stat (though SE seems to put a lot of it on Tank gear).

[SeraviEdalborez]

Wrath stacks are negligible for crit, WAR doesn't magically get more out of it.

Ruby with Det or Crit, the choice doesn't really matter.

[kensatsu]

One question, to got this i90 craft accesories for pld ?
i already did it for the ring.
Trade 30 vit for 64 str ?

[SirTaint]

Losing 30vit for 64str is def worth it. (98% of the time)

But the question is, is it necessary right now? Probably cost 10mil to penta meld all your accessories and nothing short of savage coil needs them.

2.4 they will be needed for progression groups but not for the standard player base.

[RhazeCain]

If you value both offense (str) and defense (HP), then i90 crafted is unquestionably best. If you want purely one way or other, then no. *Necessary*? No of course not, but sure would be nice.

As for those saying never need more than 9k HP, I don't buy that. If you're not planning on doing anything harder than t6, ever, then maybe so.

T7 there are times you might tank 2 dancers or boss+dancer or prosecutor. Run your cooldowns and you're probably fine with 9k. But more HP is nice.

T8 I've been quad hit for ~10k HP a couple times. Boss auto + Boss cleave + Dread auto + Dread rotoswipe. 4 hits in 1 sec, totaling right around 10k. Can't guarantee what cooldowns were in effect there. But let's assume none there and you'll have up Vengeance or Rampart or something for Dread -- that let's you live. Unless healer let you be at 75% during the wrong moment. So I totally believe those that say it's been done with pure STR setup. But they had to tiptoe around a possible insta-kill -- I'd rather give up the STR and not waste my group's time with the occasional tank death.

T9 - can't say. I've not done this one enough.

And Savage + future content I'm sure you'll find use for the HP.

[AIex]

I know the post is for WAR, but I'd like to ask opinions on this build's viability for PLD.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

I know the post is for WAR, but I'd like to ask opinions on this build's viability for PLD.

They're just as viable on PLD.

However, the Skill Speed from Ruby accessories can be problematic for PLDs, as their TP consumption, while tanking, is much higher (even with Shield Swipe) than WAR's.
It's not a huge issue, but, if you're just gearing for PLD, then Topaz accessories might be a better choice.