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  1. #41
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    DoubleT's Avatar
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    Double Toker
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    Once this 'radar' thing offcially stated as Legal or illegal, then I will join parties. (FFXI seemed to have the same stuff - please SE lighten us up, it's very annoying and frustrating for the majority of the community. Thank you for your time.)
    you keep going on an on in all these threads about "if its legal" or not. read the ToS. Its against the rules. not only that a community rep has come in here an posted at least 3 times this week alone because of all these repeat topic threads, an has clrealy stated each time that third party tools are not allowed, never were allowed an punishable. give it up dude, they arent going to bend, SE has held this stance for the better part of a decade now.
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  2. 07-18-2014 02:29 AM

  3. #42
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    Hybris-Maenad's Avatar
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    Hybris Maenad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadae View Post
    Would it really have been so hard for you to shout the location and wait a few minutes? It's one thing if you alone just need the monster but this is something the whole server needs. Granted the reaction was a touch overboard but in the end it's your fault for not knowing the community.
    What exactly is going through your peoples heads that entitles you to full credit on something you did not find? You are aware that a whole server can't share full credit, don't play stupid.
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  4. 07-18-2014 02:35 AM

  5. #43
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    Clavaat's Avatar
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    Osric Sylador
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadae View Post
    Well this game isn't WoW and a good portion of the community are old school FF11 and there you just don't do what you did. For new quests they would actually form lines to do them.
    Quests. Not NM's. I don't know what FFXI you played, but those were free-for-alls. As a matter of fact, it was insanely competitive. People would actively try to d/c you by spamming moves just so you lose claim. You pretty much couldn't bother even attempting to get NM's unless you had Stun or other instant cast ability. I completely approve of how the OP handled it. These should be done as you see them, solo or a small group, no reason to hold for the police-force LS' with their rules that they try to enforce on others. I wouldn't even recommend shouting, until after you engage or right before.
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  6. #44
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    BeePee's Avatar
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    Tony Tony
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Why should I have to tip someone for using my own materials? Infact, why should I have to tip someone at all? A tip should be an act of gratitude, not a form of payment for your services. They could've easily just have not offered at all, and saved the four precious seconds of their life and the 15 gil repair cost, (assuming it was already at 100%).

    It's like when you order pizza and they charge you a delivery fee. As far as I'm concerned, the delivery fee is the tip. They shouldn't charge me a flat fee for something then expect extra on top of it.

    If someone asks for a meld, and you step up, your doing it out of kindness. If they tip you for it, then that is kindness in return. When you demand payment, that's not kindness, that then becomes business. And you know what? If you really want a tip, then fine, here's 50 gil for the stupid repair cost.

    And honestly, most players with multiple lv 50 crafters hardly need a tip. Most high level craters are sitting on 1mil gil or better.

    This sorta reminds me of this one guy who was willing to craft me a i90 DRG Chest piece using MY MATS and MATERIA, and he wanted a 250K tip for it. If anything, that tip is to prevent him from walking away with my mats and being a thief. >.>
    Either make some friends who can craft things for you, or suck it up and pay strangers for their time.
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  7. #45
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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    you keep going on an on in all these threads about "if its legal" or not. read the ToS. Its against the rules. not only that a community rep has come in here an posted at least 3 times this week alone because of all these repeat topic threads, an has clrealy stated each time that third party tools are not allowed, never were allowed an punishable. give it up dude, they arent going to bend, SE has held this stance for the better part of a decade now.
    Lol giving it up on what exactly? I am against it ^^

    Glad to see you enlighten all of us here. Care to share links so we all could see what SE will do to those that are using it?

    AFAIK seems it's hard to trace?

    And Yoshi said: if you use apps, don't mention it. So how can you get a clear confirmation from ToS when the Producer himself say these things?

    So nope, I won't give up untill justice will be right.

    decade lol you made my day: seeing how it goes since they implement it, you have a clear grasp of what's going on.

    Some were using a kinda-like radar in FFXI. Was that implemented by SE? if yes, they should have done the same before releasing Cerberus.

    If not by SE, seems they 'bended' and accepted it.

    Somes are getting banned for less than that. (pointing to abusers, not you: just want to make sure you can read it properly, since you misread my intentions)

    Community was decent - now lots of it is trash talk and threats to some that just want to play the game, and perhaps - having fun and no stress.
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 07-18-2014 at 02:58 AM.

  8. #46
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    Niamh_Rillemaugh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    It's like when you order pizza and they charge you a delivery fee. As far as I'm concerned, the delivery fee is the tip. They shouldn't charge me a flat fee for something then expect extra on top of it.

    If someone asks for a meld, and you step up, your doing it out of kindness. If they tip you for it, then that is kindness in return. When you demand payment, that's not kindness, that then becomes business. And you know what? If you really want a tip, then fine, here's 50 gil for the stupid repair cost.
    Happy to see somebody taking Reservoir Dogs to heart. /sarcasm
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  9. #47
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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    This sorta reminds me of this one guy who was willing to craft me a i90 DRG Chest piece using MY MATS and MATERIA, and he wanted a 250K tip for it. If anything, that tip is to prevent him from walking away with my mats and being a thief. >.>
    I really don't get the sense of entitlement from people who say things like this. So, you think the crafter leveled most crafts to level 50, full melding her gear (about 2m + 1.5m per class), and got through the Artisan grind (which also costs about a 1m per class as well as many hours of crafting) just so she could spend her time crafting stuff for you for free since you took ten seconds to buy some mats off the MB? If crafting is so easy that crafters shouldn't be paid for their time (and time is the biggest cost to a crafter, not mat prices which they can factor into the price), why aren't you doing it yourself? Not to mention, there is no 100% rotation for three star (i90) crafts. If he failed to HQ the synth, would you expect him to replace your mats and try again?

    /offtopic
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  10. #48
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    CrystalRainbow's Avatar
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    Really, in 2 weeks time people will clear off your name from blacklists because guess what. They will be clearing off RMT and clear your name at the same time.


    Also. No one really cares and I'm sure 99% of the server doesn't even know who you are.
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  11. #49
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    Yukon Jack
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    I see and somewhat agree with your argument, however KNOWING that there are issues with the Hunt and how many people are looking to kill them it would have been courteous of you to wait and/ or invite people to a group. On Balmung yesterday I was very surprised that Naul was found and people ACTUALLY waiting a full 2 minutes beofre killing him to allow more people to get there. You shouldnt be surprised that people get upset when you knowingly do something that will make them mad.
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    By Grabthar's Hammer, you shall be avenged
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