Change Morale to Determination in Front Lines

[Mattlex]

Lets face it Wolves den was a bit... Meh and it got to a point where soo many people were doing trade wins to get decked out in PVP gear it just became pointless to play because they always had the advantage! I'm not saying everyone did this but unless you started Wolves den from when it was released, going into a match as a casual player was just painful and a waste of time.

If PVP gear stats worked in Frontline it would be the same.. people would get bored of constantly loosing to the decked out people and stop playing. As it is curently, its lots of fun because its balanced and everyone is capped to the same level.

[Eyeshield_90]

As it is curently, its lots of fun because its balanced and everyone is capped to the same level.

And without any respect to the one that continued to play pvp from the beginning destroying all what they did in the past months. Really nice :s .
Lets say that from tomorrow all the PVE gear you got from the Second Coil, where you spent hours and hours to beat all turns is useless, because now you just need Crystal Tower gear(iL80) to beat ALL the Second Coil Turns. I don't think you would have reacted the same way you are doing now.

This is why I'm saying the difference in Wolf's Den is TOO MUCH because a marauder can't one shot everything he see and a SCH can't be Immortal! But who spent months for his PvP gears deserve just a little bit more then "what you did till now and all the months you spent doing pvp now are.... USELESS!!".

[Mattlex]

Lets say that from tomorrow all the PVE gear you got from the Second Coil, where you spent hours and hours to beat all turns is useless, because now you just need Crystal Tower gear(iL80) to beat ALL the Second Coil Turns. I don't think you would have reacted the same way you are doing now.

I would react exactly the same because exactly what you described has happened already in a way.. all those hours put in to Coil 1 only to have them nurf it with Echo and everyone is running around in full Allagan gear, the same gear people dedicated a tonne of time and effort to obtain!
Guess what, it will happen to Coil 2 eventually and it's reason i'm not bothering with it, as the time and effort required to get a static together isn't worth it knowing that whatever gear I get will be easier to obtain when new content is released.

The PVP gear is still good for Wolves Den and I don't doubt they will introduce further PVP content where it is usable.

[Rawk]

I would react exactly the same because exactly what you described has happened already in a way.. all those hours put in to Coil 1 only to have them nurf it with Echo and everyone is running around in full Allagan gear, the same gear people dedicated a tonne of time and effort to obtain!

There's a big difference in still being able to USE your gear you obtained and catching everyone up versus what happened in pvp where PvP gear is now WORSE than pve gear and everyone in pve gear has an advantage over you and your gear is useless. I don't even have pve gear for my DRG (my pvp class) anymore. It's not the same. They also gave you (all the hours you put into coil 1 guy) a new tier to obtain while the rest of the crowd was catching up. The same thing did not happen to you. I would specifically be okay if everyone else got a free pass to pvp gear. Catching everyone up is always less of a blow.

[Snorgrind]

If PVP gear stats worked in Frontline it would be the same.. people would get bored of constantly loosing to the decked out people and stop playing. As it is curently, its lots of fun because its balanced and everyone is capped to the same level.

What you are asking right now is making me to think you are probably already stacked with morale gear but unable to enjoy the fun of toturing new players. Correct me if I am wrong.

Do you ppl even read OP ? its not about reintroduce morale bonus but replacing it with determination and i think its actualy good idea. Yea i70 warwolf and i55 wolf gear would still be useless but i90 and i100 would be actualy usefull and with same stats cuz of levelsynch. i100 would be basicly vanity gear for ppl over 32rank. There are many ppl that run fronlines in i70warwolf and normal pve gear, when you grind out frontline BIS you are around 50crit + 50det above them, its not that much but still usefull bonus. And this is exactly what is OP asking for. Atm you have to run stone vigil or other dungs with 0.01% chance to drop some of those BIS pieces. This way ppl that like and run pvp all day long dont have to spend their time doing pve and just use PVP gear.