SE, Stop promoting AFK gameplay.

[Zeeg44]

Honestly waiting for FATES for my atma bookis not that big a deal. Just find times when you have some down time when it's slow in the game and wait watch a video or something if something better like an elite mark or the chance to party with friends comes up do that. The fate will still be there later. It's no illusion that the atma books are a bit time consuming so if you came in to it thinking you could breeze through probably should not have started. Besides this is an optional weapon no one is forcing you to wait go do ex Levi or ex ramuh for i100 weapon or get in a static and do coils. People should stop crying about anima/atma already it's well known what kind of grind it is if you don't like it don't do it.

[Moqi]

It does suck. Waited around 3 hours in Sylphlands waiting for Breaking Dawn only to discover it's a hunt so it goes down in about 30 seconds so I didn't get enough credit towards my atma book. >_>

Omg, it's a FATE in the book I bought yesterday. Oh dear...

[TheMax1087]

Just find times when you have some down time when it's slow in the game and wait watch a video or something

Every time i see someone suggest this as a thing to do while waiting on something in game I facepalm. If you wanted to watch a video, why would you be playing the game in the first place.

[Sapphic]

Beautfiul argument, except it's a bit overused and does not match the reality.

PvE and PvP are two totally different things. I have PvE for gear progression, PvP for competition against other living players. I want to win knowing I out played the other, not because my gear or their gear was better. I've PvPd in many games where gear had no real significance in the outcome. DaoC, pve gear was practically given as it was that easy to obtain and the PvP is still seen as one of, if not THE, best MMO PvP.

Pre WoW PvP gear didn't exist, then comes WoWs PvP gear progression and everyone expects it. Yet PvP flourished just fine without it before.

[Edli]

Every time i see someone suggest this as a thing to do while waiting on something in game I facepalm. If you wanted to watch a video, why would you be playing the game in the first place.

i know right? What I get from that is "is not that bad, you can enjoy the game if you don't play it". You're not making it look any better by saying that.

[Adler]

I have to agree with Gallus, the relic quest is just mindless grind with fates that pop every few hours.
If I do some of the other cool stuff (primal/coil/etc) I have a good chance that i miss them, so the options i have is to finish the ugrade somtime next year or walk to the site of an fate and pick up a good book.

Atma can be got within minutes not hours, FATEs can be forced to spawn, myth was super easy to get even before 2.3 with no need for any Brayflox runs at all. Just a matter of if you use your brain or only keyboard while playing game.

[Cuervo78]

Really? How do you get an ATMA in a few minutes? Read in the devs blog that it is pure luck.

[Brine_Gildchaff]

Sitting in one place and waiting on a FATE is boring as hell, yeah, but it's far from the only thing you can do. One thing I did a -lot- while I was working on my animus books was that I'd go into an area, open the map and park it on the space I knew the FATE would spawn at, and then go wander around the zone and do things. Run other FATEs on a different class to try and get another atma or (once I had my first animus weapon) spare alexandrite, kill the target mobs in the area, or just plain spiritbond. Another trick also is that you take a time you'd be afk -anyway- (like say lunchtime) and before you go do that thing, park your char where the FATE pops and just keep half an eye on the screen while you do stuff. You don't have to just sit there and do nothing. And Square's dropping the wait times for a lot of these rarer FATEs too, specifically because of this problem. I agree the three target FATEs are the least fun part of each book, but I don't think it's at all as bad as you make it out to be. And I say this as someone with a novus shield and 6/9 books towards Thyrus Animus finished.