SE, Stop promoting AFK gameplay.

[Divinemight]

Yeah, indeed. That's why my favourite games are RPGs, I do not enjoy time sinks lol

S/E is simply unable to please everyone isnt it? That applies to all gaming companies. I personally dislike those games that giving out welfare gears to the players. It is a mechanic that is killing the mmorpg. Why dont you go play dialbo 3 or Star Ocean Online 2 if that is the type of gameplay you want?

[Gallus]

really just goes to show what type of person you really, I hope you have fun with your Novus, and I am going to guess your 37 cats.

What kind of person I am? For what? For having an opinion? For stating that certain content is boring and that SE shouldn't keep going this line if they want to keep players hyped? What do you even mean with "the kind of person I am", you are the one that has gone offtopic since you opened your mouth in here. You've claimed "I didn't play this game for fun?" which was a silly comment in the first place, then you went on further and made a silly joke about KMs, offered me a cookie (how nice of you). I haven't landed a single offensive comment to no one since this thread started, I'm just saying a certain content of this game is very poorly implemented, but you've been clearly offensive to me since your first post. So go look yourself at the mirror before coming here and judging people.

[Mcshiggs]

I haven't landed a single offensive comment to no one since this thread started,

You have already gone back and edited one of your posts because of offensive comments, if it wasn't offensive, you wouldn't have edited it.

[Gallus]

You have already gone back and edited one of your posts because of offensive comments, if it wasn't offensive, you wouldn't have edited it.

It could have been potentially seen as "offensive language", but I wasn't specifically insulting anyone or offering cookies.

[Kinseykinz]

/sitting for the next 30 hours in 27 fates waiting for them to pop from you 9 animus books is NOT fun.
Running around in circles/afking with an app radar is NOT fun.

Why do you insist on making the players NOT play this game in order to acquire SIGNIFICANT stuff?

There are over 15 level 50 dungeons, all of them with arguably fun mechanics, 5 primals, mog, frontlines... but the arguably most valuable stuff you can obtain in this game is via killing level 5 sprites for the next 100 hours (aka atma grind) and afking in a 8 man party with an app radar?

The next relic upgrade gonna be dance the manderville 100 hours in each area?

Simple.

You do not NEED to do the Atma/Atmus/Novus Questline. There are, and will always be, weapons of the same level/better in game. It is an alternate weapon/content. BC/Primals is considered the more prudent path for those who enjoy active play/challenging play/have a preformed group.

Allied Marks:
So don't camp? Again, you don't NEED allied marks. The gear isn't better than what you can get other ways, and the vanity/yard items =not too difficult/time consuming to get if you just did your 3 daily non-fate locked marks, and then happened to join in any mark battle you chanced to meet. All the stuff that most people are farming these for drop in other places...and technically are easier to 'farm' for. But you need a dedicated team.

As to the sands: If you aren't actually grinding BC2, well...then technically you don't even need them....the gear you have for the content you are grinding is fine...heck, even people grinding BC2 don't need the sands atm. They are just nice to have for upgrades.

So really, if you don't like it, don't do it...if enough don't do it, SE will change it.

[dayspring83]

As said multiple times in the thread, if you don't like the content don't do it. No one forces you to stand around in one area for a fate, no one forces you to do anything. You are free to make every choice you want in game, god forbid you have to grind a little bit to get something of note, or have a little patience.

The best part is, you're complain about it, but you're going to keep doing the content because you want the end result. Just like when people complain about how much they hate their job, but they wake up and go to it every day so they can get paid. Why are you even playing an mmo if you are complaining about time sinks?

This. If a quest line looks like it's gonna be a pain in the ass and is gonna make me dislike the game? Guess what, I don't do the shit.

[DoctorPepper]

Well after seeing the OP act like a child for the last 2 pages I can't really defend/agree with them anymore.

I still think that having to grind low level FATEs to get some of the best weapons in the game is the wrong way for SE to do things. I don't find it fun and will probably always miss out on that "content" because I don't find it fun. That sucks, it really does, but I'll live and will continue to support threads that are against it unless they change it or at least make it less random. As long as it takes 10 hrs for 1 person and 100 hrs for another person to get the same reward I will never agree with it.

[Canopia]

The next relic upgrade gonna be dance the manderville 100 hours in each area?

You know, Id take that requirement over the current Atma RNG Grind. At least I will get enjoyment out of watching my Lala silly dancing and not have to kill the same fates for hours on end, hoping to see a single item drop. And yes, my RNG luck is horrible more often than not.

[Zarzak]

Yeah, indeed. That's why my favourite games are RPGs, I do not enjoy time sinks lol.

Uhhh.... What? Have you ever played any Final Fantasy ever? There are time sinks in EVERY SINGLE ONE.

Hell MOST RPGs have some kind of level system. All of which are time sinks.

Baldur's Gate? Yep time sinks
All of the Elder Scroll games? Time sinks

[Recaldy]

It does suck. Waited around 3 hours in Sylphlands waiting for Breaking Dawn only to discover it's a hunt so it goes down in about 30 seconds so I didn't get enough credit towards my atma book. >_>