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    Immut's Avatar
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by silvach View Post
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    Fast Blade has no multiplier, it's 150 damage which is 150 enmity.
    Savage Blade and Shield Toss have 3x enmity multipliers, as do their WAR equivilants
    Rage of Halone has a 5x enmity multiplier.
    Flash is the enmity of a 500 potency attack.
    All buffs including stoneskin and galvanize generate roughly 70 enmity. Not 70 enmity potency, just 70 points of enmity. They're basically negligible.
    Any healing has a 0.5x enmity multiplier.
    Shield Oath doubles all your enmity and stacks with the above, but you take a 20% damage penalty, so effectively it's 1.6x enmity.
    Sword Oath gives you an additional 50 potency attack every time you use an autoattack.

    In the event that this conflicts with the link above, I am right, and they are wrong.
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    Poland, Warsaw
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    Silvach Dakwhil
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Stuff.
    So with 100str, 100det, 100crt and 30 weapon damage I should do raw:

    39,80375412 Fast
    55,72525577 Savage
    68,99317381 RoH
    132,6791804 Flash

    Enmity. If it is multiplied by the enmity changers it gives:

    119,4112624 Fast
    167,1757673 Savage
    344,9658691 RoH
    132,6791804 Flash

    And with Shield Oath:

    238,8225247 Fast
    334,3515346 Savage
    689,9317381 RoH
    265,3583608 Flash

    So, in 7,5 seconds with shield oath I can do 1263,10 Enmity with full combo or 796 with 3 times Flash (which is 63% of the enmity I can generate with combo). That's cool, lets see how much my DPS will do in the same time (with slightly better weapon (35) and better STR 200). I take the most basic combo of DRG:

    60,83551785 True Thrust
    81,1140238 Vorpal Thrust
    133,8381393 Full Thrust

    That is 275 enmity. In theory I should be able to cover his 7,5s combo with 2 flashes and not have to spam another one. So having a rotation of Flash / Flash / Fast blade in first 7,5 seconds should do 769,53 enmity on 1 target and 530 on all targets. Then I can savage on next and RoH on last and RoH on 1st again to cover the enmity for another 7,5seconds. That gives me some ideas... And it also means that using Provoke into Shield toss is inferior to Provoke into flash / RoH (as RoH does the same amount of enmity as flash when out of combo).

    And one more: how much does the Bloodbath add to enmity counter when used (i know it gives some at the moment when you active it but how much it adds each hit?)
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    Fudo Myoo
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by silvach View Post
    And it also means that using Provoke into Shield toss is inferior to Provoke into flash / RoH (as RoH does the same amount of enmity as flash when out of combo).

    And one more: how much does the Bloodbath add to enmity counter when used (i know it gives some at the moment when you active it but how much it adds each hit?)
    No, just no man... Opening with voke is useless... You open with lob then flash. bloodbath doesnt add enmity per attack.
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by silvach View Post
    And it also means that using Provoke into Shield toss is inferior to Provoke into flash / RoH (as RoH does the same amount of enmity as flash when out of combo).
    Provoke is a terrible opener, though. The only time I ever open with Provoke is when I need to nab something that's a bit out of Shield Lob range; even then, my hold on it is absolutely nil until I actually hit it with something else, so people have to sit on their hands and not breathe on the mob lest I lose aggro. Provoke doesn't generate enmity. It sets your enmity to the top of the mob's list, but you have to follow up with something else or the DPS/heals will just yank it back off you the second they look at it funny.

    Generally speaking, Provoke is for quickly taking back a mob that's been yanked off you. Not to open with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    No, just no man... Opening with voke is useless... You open with lob then flash. bloodbath doesnt add enmity per attack.
    Bloodbath heals, so it does add enmity. FoF/Bloodbath macro is killer for securing enmity early on.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 07-16-2014 at 01:52 AM.