Open letter to Yoshida: Your preview on The Hunt is misleading

[PreetWilson]

they stand up fairly well to a party of adventurers. what they don't stand up to is a battalion of us.

Understood. In an ideal world the NM may have been hunted by just a party of adventurers but the fact of the matter is that they are not being just hunted by a group but rather practically the whole server.

I would love to hunt them with just me and a group of friends and actually get a nice and challenging fight, but that's not going to happen as much as I would like it to atm.

God forbid if me and friends were to randomly find a mob and killed it by ourselves, if someone were to find out and let all the LS's know, we'd get chewed out like many other players who got caught soloing mobs.

[Ehayte]

Afraid that they'd probably rage/report me if I dared to touch it, I switched to my BLM waiting for my skills to cool down.
Unfortunately, by the time they did, the B rank mob was dead. I got nothing for being "honest" so I've given up until I SE changes the system.

That's not honesty . . . were you honestly going to pull the mob with your fishermen? That would be dishonest, or at least kind of crappy to the other players because you wouldn't actually contribute anything you would just get credit for touching it, and you didn't even find it first.

Also they can't report you for pulling an open world mob.

I mean, I agree that people shouldn't cheat, obviously, but I came about all my seals by being ready to hunt and connecting myself to the right people - not by cheating. If someone tagged it on a fishermen I would think that they are selfish.

All I am saying is that at least on Adamantoise, you can be an honest player just looking around and listening to LSs/Party/FC and still get a decent amount of seals.

[Nukocafe]

That's not honesty . . . were you honestly going to pull the mob with your fishermen? That would be dishonest, or at least kind of crappy to the other players because you wouldn't actually contribute anything you would just get credit for touching it, and you didn't even find it first.

In case you didn't know, some of these mobs are aggro and will attack fishermen/miners/botanists like any other aggro mob.
The path I was walking by I didn't even notice it. I could have easily just walked by it and drew aggo by accident if I hadn't seen the giant crowd of people around it.



By the way if it's a B rank mob it's technically a soloable mob. So let's say I wasn't on my fisher, I'm not part of any hunt link shells. I have no obligation to tell the whole server or the whole map that there's a hunt mob here that's meant to be SOLO'ed. If my FC members/friends are nearby I'll call them and we will kill it ourselves. That's how the hunts were intended to be done. No one is obliged to tell anyone about hunt mobs, because that's not how this system was made.

Which reminds me, I know a lot of players have been concerned this will be like back in the day, where one player or party would claim an enemy, and lock everyone else out from getting a reward. You'll be happy to know that the Hunt was not designed with any such claiming system in mind. In fact, some of the elite marks are so powerful, it would be in your best interest to shout for help before trying to lay a hand on them. I've also heard the more elusive elite marks drop rare items as well. These rare items are distributed on a player-by-player basis, so don't hesitate to reach for a helping hand.

He's basically saying the monsters are SO TOUGH you should ask for help. Unfortunately, they are in fact not tough at all, so if you do not need help to kill one, you are no obliged to call the whole server to kill it with you. It's like going to some limited time cake sale, buying the last cake and making sure everyone in line behind you gets a piece because they weren't lined up in time to get a cake of their own.

[Elim]

All I am saying is that at least on Adamantoise, you can be an honest player just looking around and listening to LSs/Party/FC and still get a decent amount of seals.

I'm saying that too. You can hunt being an honest player. I did. I do. However that doesn't mean it's not made more difficult than it should be by the cheaters monopolizing the system or the fact that every single mob is zerged by 200 people(who clearly don't all get the reward since you sneeze at the mobs and they die).

[Madizm74]

They should just find away for zero tolerance plug in cheats fuck the gill sellers go after the people buying and using illegal things who's account really mean something to them.

[Doki]

Everything in this tread is why I haven't even bothered trying to find marks. If I'm lucky I will encounter one in my path to whatever I was doing and it will be some tiny bonus, but cheaters ruin it for the rest of us, and I do not care enough either way. The rewards are all side grades, oils & sands will come with time in 2nd coil, and while I'd like the minions, the whole system seems designed with exploiters in mind. I don't see how else you're supposed to farm up a serious amount of points otherwise.

[HumsterMKX]

People are saying that if they change the system that honest players are going to be punished in the crossfire. Personally, I'm 100% fine with that. I collected all of the seals I have now honestly but I wouldn't mind if they did a rollback... or something.

Almost 1 week. It is too late for a roll back.

[Ehayte]

In case you didn't know, some of these mobs are aggro and will attack fishermen/miners/botanists like any other aggro mob.
The path I was walking by I didn't even notice it. I could have easily just walked by it and drew aggo by accident if I hadn't seen the giant crowd of people around it.

OK? What does that have to do with you being honest, again?

By the way if it's a B rank mob it's technically a soloable mob. So let's say I wasn't on my fisher, I'm not part of any hunt link shells. I have no obligation to tell the whole server or the whole map that there's a hunt mob here that's meant to be SOLO'ed. If my FC members/friends are nearby I'll call them and we will kill it ourselves. That's how the hunts were intended to be done. No one is obliged to tell anyone about hunt mobs, because that's not how this system was made.

I don't think any of the hunt mobs were MEANT to be SOLO'ed. You can certainly solo a B rank, but why wouldn't you want your friends to receive a reward for it as well? No one is obligated to tell any one else, but people do in hopes of reciprocity. But you are totally right you can absolutely solo a B rank and you absolutely are under no obligation to tell anybody about it. I don't see your count-point.

He's basically saying the monsters are SO TOUGH you should ask for help. Unfortunately, they are in fact not tough at all, so if you do not need help to kill one, you are no obliged to call the whole server to kill it with you. It's like going to some limited time cake sale, buying the last cake and making sure everyone in line behind you gets a piece because they weren't lined up in time to get a cake of their own.

A. Don't eat an entire cake by yourself, its sad and unhealthy.
B. Good luck having no one ever help you find a mark. Have fun with your 70 seals a week.
C. If you can solo an A rank I would be THOROUGHLY impressed. B ranks are really the only soloable Marks. I think you are basing your judgement on the system on one occasion that you saw a hunt take place on one of the weakest marks.

[Elim]

Hm. Actually...How about making their spawn rates much lower? Perhaps have the S' spawn timer to once a week. The A's and B's once every three days. That or assign random respawn timers that vary between three, four of five days for lower ranks and one to two weeks for the s'. I't may not completely stop zergs, but it could cut down on them because chances are hunters/cheaters won't sit around all day every day for less than 10% of the rewards they're getting now. If it really doesn't help they could make the spawn rates even lower.

[Blackweaver]

my only real complaint is the last one:

There is a casual alternative to acquiring seals.

can only get 7 marks a day. And the gc gear that is i70, I'd love to get, wont happen for 7-8 months. That gear is way overpriced I feel.