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    Lol at people claiming the app is harmless. They either are doing it and trying to hide the true power of advantage or just begging to get themselves banned altogether.

    If one person in an area uses the app, then yes the changes is far too miniscule to make difference.

    Imagine an entire party or LINKSHELL filled with people running the same app scattered across an area.

    You see the difference? Stop trying to make an excuse for cheating.

    It's almost as pathetic as the comments that I see whenever someone claims A rank and pulls it before "The Masses" comes in for their one hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double View Post
    Lol at people claiming the app is harmless. They either are doing it and trying to hide the true power of advantage or just begging to get themselves banned altogether.

    If one person in an area uses the app, then yes the changes is far too miniscule to make difference.

    Imagine an entire party or LINKSHELL filled with people running the same app scattered across an area.

    You see the difference? Stop trying to make an excuse for cheating.

    It's almost as pathetic as the comments that I see whenever someone claims A rank and pulls it before "The Masses" comes in for their one hit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shmanington View Post
    Greetings Everyone,

    There appears to be some confusion regarding Third Party Software. I am replying to this thread to make it clear to anyone currently using, or interested in the use of Third Party Software.

    It has been long established that any Third Party Software used in Final Fantasy XIV [regardless of platform, situation, or intent] is a violation, and against the Agreed Terms of Agreement.
    Evidence found of using such hardware can result in warnings, bans, and even termination.

    For any additional questions or concerns, please view the Terms of Agreement link:
    http://support.eu.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=users_en

    -GM Shmanington

    Cheating is cheating. No matter how they try to word it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double View Post
    Lol at people claiming the app is harmless. They either are doing it and trying to hide the true power of advantage or just begging to get themselves banned altogether.
    Yes everyone who disagrees with you is a cheater, you got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Double View Post
    If one person in an area uses the app, then yes the changes is far too miniscule to make difference.

    Imagine an entire party or LINKSHELL filled with people running the same app scattered across an area.
    Imagine those people doing the same thing legitimately! It's still a pretty big advantage. I agree that people shouldn't be using this app but you're just living in a fantasy land. It's undetectable and that's that. Maybe the creator will remove the functionality but I imagine players can simply readd it. The FROTH you people are working yourself up into over this application is what's really pathetic.

    A lot of people aren't making excuses, a lot of people simply are overstating the functionalities of this application, and that's it. So people go to correct them and we get crazy posts like yours. Though if those people didn't bother to correct you, you'd still have people going on about how people are scanning zone wide and getting updates to their cellphones or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worm View Post
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    Yeah because knowing exactly where a mob spawns is the same as running through an area and seeing it pop for yourself.

    /facepalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double View Post
    Yeah because knowing exactly where a mob spawns is the same as running through an area and seeing it pop for yourself.

    /facepalm
    I love how I make a post about how what most people are trying to do is explain to you the scope of these addons and you reply with a post MISTATING THE SCOPE OF THESE ADDONS. You really could not give me any better gift. People using this addon do not know exactly where the mob spawns! They don't do that, what they do is give you a mini-map radius. Honestly Square should dedicate it's next patch to the proud individuals that have wasted countless hours correcting you and your hyperbolic ilk on these forums.

    You're in such a frenzy you don't care what the addons do. You speculate and invent functionality of the addons simply because you're out of control and the few people trying to talk reason to you have it implied that they're cheaters. You're just the worst. All you want is some feel good message board freak out. Call for bans that you know can't happen, complaining about cheat programs with functionality you dreamt up, and declaring anyone who isn't acting like you a cheater.
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    Last edited by Worm; 07-15-2014 at 07:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worm View Post
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    It doesn't matter what the third party programs do. They could do nothing more than dye your outfit for free and it would still be cheating. And why should we just not care? That's how it starts, you know: eventually(if it hasn't happened already) there will be parties and more demanding it be installed like mumble and teamspeak, except those do not screw with the game for your own benefit.

    This is not something that should be swept under the rug, it is a concern that needs to be addressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    It doesn't matter what the third party programs do. They could do nothing more than dye your outfit for free and it would still be cheating. And why should we just not care? That's how it starts, you know: eventually(if it hasn't happened already) there will be parties and more demanding it be installed like mumble and teamspeak, except those do not screw with the game for your own benefit.

    This is not something that should be swept under the rug, it is a concern that needs to be addressed.
    ...What? No, because if someone starts demanding illegal third-party software in party finder or ingame chat, they'll be banned.

    There are legitimate concerns with this software. Insane slippery slopes are not one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    ...What? No, because if someone starts demanding illegal third-party software in party finder or ingame chat, they'll be banned.

    There are legitimate concerns with this software. Insane slippery slopes are not one of them.
    Well according to several hunting threads here, people have in fact done this, despite it being against the ToS.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 07-15-2014 at 08:03 AM.