About 3rd Party Softwares

[Elim]

You *do* know that if the players are abiding by fight club rules, you'd never know that they were using those programs, right? You could already be playing with people who use them.

They're the ones with 7 sands of time from the hunts already and show up within one second of a mob spawning on top of you. :P Pretty easy to spot the cheaters. At least some of them.

There's FCs on my server that brag about cheating all the time. But like I said in another thread, I don't think they'll get banned.

[LadyVal]

It's pretty cut and dry, and this is the newest (I believe) official statement on the subject:

"...we would like to remind players that using third-party programs, parsers, or other tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service, and will be dealt with strict disciplinary action."

From:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...948.1402212480

[Tsuwu]

Anyone else feel like this will be much less of a "grievous injustice on the rights of humanity" in about 3 week's time, and there's just a liiiitle bit of dramarama going around?

It reads from memory addresses, fully client side; pretty much undetectable. SE can't really do anything.
If it offends you enough, report. Otherwise, do other content or go do something else.

I still don't understand why people don't know that getting out of the chair is an option.
If all you can do is hunt, and it's broken by a third party tool, either get it and play hard ball or wait.
Sucks, but so does a great many other things.
Fortunately, you all have options on your time. Exercise them.

[wicked-one]

If all you can do is hunt, and it's broken by a third party tool, either get it and play hard ball or wait.
Sucks, but so does a great many other things.

But - unfortunately - the carrot is too delicious.

It load´s of huge amounts of Myth -> a great increase in my novus working** (and those who work on Animus)
Hunting Marks and Books -> Oil/Sand´s of Time, farm your i110 Equip in no Time...

so if you want to enhance your Gear, this is the fastest and best way to do it ... if there werent always people to a Mob the minute it spawned across the map...

(i jumped from 2 Alex a day to 5 i got yesterday - without runnin BF over and over)

- but it´s not Hunt Topic at all, it´s a topic about people use something which gives an advantage over others, and that is in any kind of game with mulitplayer aspect a no go.

it´s not even a FF-XIV Topic, as the world is full of guy´s who always claim everything for them first, leave what´s left when they are finished...

alone on the hunt, i could write my master work on sociology...

[Nephera]

You *do* know that if the players are abiding by fight club rules, you'd never know that they were using those programs, right? You could already be playing with people who use them.

You fools, there was a SKELETON INSIDE ME THE WHOLE TIME!

[Kydi]

On the policy of third part programs, what is SE's policy on remote desktop? I would like to be able to craft whilst commuting, but not if it would breach TOS. I assume it should be OK given that you're still in control of what's happening and really it's no different to a PS Vita.

[LadyVal]

On the policy of third part programs, what is SE's policy on remote desktop? I would like to be able to craft whilst commuting, but not if it would breach TOS. I assume it should be OK given that you're still in control of what's happening and really it's no different to a PS Vita.

My guess is it would be okay. In the announcement I quoted they said nothing that another player can't normally do, and given that the PS has the Vita option, and all/most PCs can use remote desktop, it can be done normally.

[Shmanington]

Greetings Everyone,

There appears to be some confusion regarding Third Party Software. I am replying to this thread to make it clear to anyone currently using, or interested in the use of Third Party Software.

It has been long established that any Third Party Software used in Final Fantasy XIV [regardless of platform, situation, or intent] is a violation, and against the Agreed Terms of Agreement.
Evidence found of using such hardware can result in warnings, bans, and even termination.

For any additional questions or concerns, please view the Terms of Agreement link:
http://support.eu.square-enix.com/ru...1&tag=users_en

-GM Shmanington

[wicked-one]

There's FCs on my server that brag about cheating all the time. But like I said in another thread, I don't think they'll get banned.

You could at least report them, so GM´s can examine the chatlogs...

if they openly admit it, they will see consequences for this...

problem of this app is, as stated several times, you can´t detect it since most is executed client-side.

And even ppl "showing up the moment it spawned" - well first question, how did you get there before them, and if they suspiciously show up all the time, maybe they are just lucky when touring specific spawn points they wrote down earlier on some piece of paper...

Still only way to say sure - when he makes a confession..

[wicked-one]

It has been long established that any Third Party Software used in Final Fantasy XIV [regardless of platform, situation, or intent] is a violation, and against the Agreed Terms of Agreement.
Evidence found of using such hardware can result in warnings, bans, and even termination.

-GM Shmanington

As this is nothing new or in surprise, most people in the forums maybe are just concerned that they always get just general reply´s, rather than an official statement on how SE is going to handle a certain issue which comes along a certain Add-on or Plug-in...

We all know the Radar-App is against ToS (and morality, which bothers more people than the ToS)... what people want here is to draw attention to this and maybe get some info´s about how this will be handled in future...