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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    I am not advocating for third-party programs, DPS meters, or anything else, but it's an unavoidable fact that a very significant portion of the playerbase wants certain things and will turn to a third party for them if they are unavailable, as they have in this game.
    I'd like to add my support for a sanctioned add on channel like other modern games have. The ability to TRULY customize the UI ala Bartender and a lightweight DPS meter are things that make the experience so much more enjoyable. I think that SE's stance is largely because of their dedication to the Playstation platform. As long as they are supporting playstation, SE isn't going to let us have anything that could potentially give us an "edge" over them (nevermind the fact we already have one in terms of better hardware, peripherals, and interface).

    It's unfortunate, but I'm not holding my breath on it unless the PC market really blows up the subscriptions and people come out in force asking for it. I'm not sure we even have the numbers tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikki View Post
    If SE had launched the game with addon support, or had at least implemented it on schedule, this wouldn't be nearly as big of an issue.
    I can promise you SE wouldn't have allowed something to offer you an advantage to be on their game nor would they OFFICIALLY support it by adding it to the PS3/PS4 version of the game. They would allow something like a DPS meter, but something to offer advantages over people who don't/can't use it? Nope.


    Far fewer people would be willing to install a third-party program if they could get those things through a first-party sanctioned channel.
    Hmm...no because the officially supported addons won't offer you things that 3rd party programs do and will - For example SE will never support pos hacking, speed hacking, auto routing to nodes (basically botting) or anything to offer advantages meaning 3rd party programs will still be very much used as they'll offer what SE will not support.

    Look at MMOs with add-on support, then look up how many hacks/bots exist for said MMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    I'd like to add my support for a sanctioned add on channel like other modern games have. The ability to TRULY customize the UI ala Bartender and a lightweight DPS meter are things that make the experience so much more enjoyable. I think that SE's stance is largely because of their dedication to the Playstation platform. As long as they are supporting playstation, SE isn't going to let us have anything that could potentially give us an "edge" over them (nevermind the fact we already have one in terms of better hardware, peripherals, and interface).

    It's unfortunate, but I'm not holding my breath on it unless the PC market really blows up the subscriptions and people come out in force asking for it. I'm not sure we even have the numbers tbh.
    Might want to do your research - I know PC is the "Master race" and all, but they stated themselves they have the ability to implement add ons to the PS3/PS4 version, especially the PS4 version if they feel it wouldn't hurt the game balance. They stated this when they first mentioned adding add-on support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I can promise you SE wouldn't have allowed something to offer you an advantage to be on their game nor would they OFFICIALLY support it by adding it to the PS3/PS4 version of the game. They would allow something like a DPS meter, but something to offer advantages over people who don't/can't use it? Nope.

    Hmm...no because the officially supported addons won't offer you things that 3rd party programs do and will - For example SE will never support pos hacking, speed hacking, auto routing to nodes (basically botting) or anything to offer advantages meaning 3rd party programs will still be very much used as they'll offer what SE will not support.
    The vast majority of people using third-party programs do so because they want the basic features that would normally be available via a sanctioned first-party addon system. If you gave them those features in a regulated environment they would never have installed a third-party program and would be far less likely to "cross the line" and install one over something grey area/"cheating" like this.

    Purely as a thought experiment: imagine you have a broken video game and the only way to fix it is with a Game Genie code. So you purchase a Game Genie, apply the code, and can play the game. However, now you've got a Game Genie and there a whole bunch of other codes you can apply, say, god mode or unlimited ammo. Are you more or less inclined to take advantage of those extra codes, having already obtained a Game Genie, than someone who does not have a Game Genie in the first place and would have to obtain one first?
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