Quote Originally Posted by Haneul View Post
Adding on to my previous post, I would like to add that with even more testing, the Chocobo stables have turned from Fair to Poor in a manner of days.

My FC got a stable right after patch, and at least one person has trained their chocobo once every hour.

Today is 7/11, so from 7/8 to today and it's already filthy, that's 3 days, so you'd roughly be using 2-3 brooms per week (and that's slow going, considering in other FCs, there could be multiple people training chocobos every hour).

The chocobos stabled in my FC fluctuate from 17 to 20, so my above estimate may not work for FCs with a much higher or lower amount of people. Larger FCs with more chocobos in the stables surely will probably be using more brooms.

Point still stands; the current way to clean stables is awful in regards to the resources it takes to be able to do it.
Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
I just wanted to say that after only about 3 days of usage between 4 people, our chocobo stable went from Fair to Poor.
I'm shocked because that means you will burn through these brooms at least 2-3 times a week and it takes nearly 3 weeks to crossbreed all the broombrush/glazenuts to make them.

What a disappointing feature that was supposed to be a fun and casual addition to the housing.
2-3 brooms a week/20 brooms

Even if we do the 3 times a week/20 brooms that is still almost 7 weeks of stable cleaning....or you know, 1 and a half months of use from ONE synth....hell, there's people who burn through their top-end gear faster than that.
Also, lets just assume for funzies, that your FC plants one week for glazenuts, one week for broom bush and then cultivates half of them, stores the other half. Sure, that's 3 weeks in the hole (if you only have one bed) buuut, 4x20=80 brooms...or almost 6 months of stable cleaning....from ONE full round of broom mat growing.

So again, the complaining needs to stop. If you're really worried, take the next 1-2 weeks and focus solely on growing the mats for the brooms. You don't need to start from scratch, depending on your server, you might find a good buy on the 2nd level of crossbreed seeds...or even, the actual crop seeds (broombush/glazenuts). Have a guild carpenter make you a 50-100 supply of them, then tuck them away in the FC chest and use as needed. After you take 1-2 weeks to do this, then you can freely grow chocobo food.

I think the larger complaint is 'but now I can't make gil selling because FC mates will be demanding' well...if they aren't actively helping procure the resources, really the individual gardners...or at least the FC should benefit from the efforts put forth in the gardens. IE: charge your FC mates a fee to maintain the stables/craft feed. OR remind them nicely that if they don't help out, they will have to fund the stable/chocobo growth from their own pockets.

I do 100% of my FC gardening. We have enough supplies stockpiled to easily get us through the next month. This is a problem for some FC's only because they didn't plan accordingly OR don't wish to wait the 2-4 weeks it'll take to get truely situated.
If you are a member of a large FC, and you either live in a small plot and/or don't work together to use the resources you have, well that's kinda your FC's management fault. Either upgrade your plot size, work with fellow FC's that are underproducing/have less demand (I have for example contacted a Friends 'solo -it's just him and his close family' FC about working together as needed as he owns a small house and it would be easier for him to focus on food production while I keep us stocked in brooms-and other mats when needed, otherwise growing feed).

Lastly, SE knows that personal housing is around the corner....and people needed some reason to be interested in it. Personal housing likely will open up the markets, and lower costs (or at least let you grow your own). But for now, this is fine...SE does not want everyone and their brother to have a level 20 bird by August. They want this content to last. This is one way to do it...make the mats that unlock it be difficult to obtain, for now. But, finding glazenuts, jute,broombush or their lesser seeds for sale on your world is not hard. There IS a steady supply of the 2.2 seeds, once this all is figured out, their will be a steady supply of chocobo food/mats as well. It will, as many things in life do, just take time.

Or....as a FC you can circumvent the entire mess for now and just sell something, anything that nets you the same profits as the items you need (food and brooms) would cost. You could craft, gather, SB your way to gil. No one says you have to grow your own. These are not rare/ex items...be creative. Work with friends. Be patient.