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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Gardening Issue with Chocobo Raising

    Ok so it looks like several of the items used in chocobo raising take gardening to make. Now this would be ok if there was personal housing and each person could have their own garden. As it is now only like FC leaders can have gardens, although they can give other people access, if you want to grow your own stuff are not a leader of a FC you are out of luck most of the time.

    Because of this stuff like glazenuts which are used for crafting certain pets and furnishings are like 500k-1m.

    Now then the limit break item for chocobos Thavnairian Onion is needed every level past 10. Now then with only a select few FC owners being able to grow these and needing 10 of them to max your chocobo the prices will most likely be insane 1m each probably.

    The thing is prices on all garden items will stay crazy high until personal housing comes out and with a major part of chocobo raising taking gardening it will be unaffordable for most of the playerbase.
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    Seif Dincht
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    This marks the first time in history when a bunch of hc gamers will fight to get their hands on some vegetables...
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    Isagael Rose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    This marks the first time in history when a bunch of hc gamers will fight to get their hands on some vegetables...
    ...except I'm pretty sure the true Hardcore Elites don't care about their little birds levels....they have better things to do than grind mobs etc....

    Furthermore, at least on my server, 90% of the 'hardcore elite' FC's garden plots are barren most of the time....(or growing something exceptionally lame/hipster).

    Meanwhile, all the JUTE/GLAZENUTS/BROOMBOOSH I was able to grow this patch, most of it was purchased by the same 2-3 crafters.....and the items it made, purchased often by said hardcores.

    Hardcore raiders take the 'Ain't nobody got time for that!' Approach to Chocobos.... they will either:
    1. Pay for the food
    2. Not raise their birds


    And keep in mind, most people do not yet have a level 10 bird. So most people aren't directly affected quite yet. And the challenge Log chocobo exp is quite good+ stabling them = not exping with them in the field. So until we know how much exp they get from being stabled vs. leveling out in the field this is a bit of a wash atm.


    I DO agree that making gardening=the sole way you get the goods unwise...but then again, everyone with access to a chocobo stable also has access to a garden. It is up to the individual FC's to make sure their folk are taken care of. (If you are in a FC that doesn't take care of you then why are you in it?) Although, someone with a level 4 bird in my FC would probably have less 'need' of the gardening items than someone who's already put in the time with their bird and is rank 10. (meaning, I'd feed the 10 mats first....and when the rank 4 was higher up....or when we had a surplus of mats, I'd send them some).


    Lastly, My level 9 chocobo does the job. He's great. He tanks for me, and dd's and I keep him alive and we rock it. Open-world we rule. Heck, we duo Peisteskin maps all the time. I was never in a big hurry to rank him to 10 because he was 'tough enough' for my needs....no one needs a level 20 bird. While yes, down the road there might be specific content that makes a level 20 bird an asset, right now....and for the foreseable future, just hitting rank 10 is a milestone for most members of the community. 20 is a LOOOOOONG way away....with or without the veggies.

    But if all the FC's grew items that could be growing....in all their plots, this would be a non issue. At least on my server (seriously, very few FC's have anything growing in their gardens)


    The bigger delay will be: It could take 2-4weeks before the cross-breeding for the correct seeds/veggies is known. And then another 4-6weeks before enough people grow said items to start supplying the masses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Furthermore, at least on my server, 90% of the 'hardcore elite' FC's garden plots are barren most of the time....(or growing something exceptionally lame/hipster).

    XD Omg I'm dying!
    I know this is a serious issue (for me too) but oh god. That was too funny for words =D

    I didn't even know what one might grow could be considered lame and/or hipster but the more you know people!
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    Kizna Towryk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    This marks the first time in history when a bunch of hc gamers will fight to get their hands on some vegetables...
    this made me lol
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    Leyna Crosse
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    I agree, they need to make a place where ALL people can have a garden. I'm tired of SE making restrictive content only a few people can enjoy. Though I share my FC house with my husband and it is just the two of us, it is highly unfair that the perks of being in an FC are restricted from most people who belong to larger FC's.
    Please SE, can we not have our own in-room garden or something similar? I can just see the prices on the new chocobo feed/stable brush being insanely out of proportion because of this. For example, Broombushes and glazenuts required to make the stable brush to clean your stables are already insanely overpriced on my server due to the fact that everyone wants the broom minion but cant grow the mats needed to synth it.... I dont wanna know how nasty peoples stables are going to get if they cant afford to buy a simple broom to muck out stalls with....
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    They could all be resolved if they let personal rooms have their own gardens.
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    They could all be resolved if they let personal rooms have their own gardens.
    Or if we just has personal houses already......
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    Temujin Borjigin
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    i'm concerned as well as i'm in charge of growing for my fc. chocobo raising food and the fact the broom needs glaznut is insane, of course if the broom is a one time only and the chocobo food comes out 50 at a time then not so big a deal.
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    Shiveria Moonrunner
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    how much is the Broombush
    Bamboo Stick x5

    also is it a single use only or u keep it?
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