Kill the second DPS slot

[Immut]

At this point it's pretty obvious to everyone that most of the 4 man content can be pretty much 3 1/2 manned. There's always a dps that isn't pulling their weight, or you get a party that can and just blow the hell out of everything because one guy is at i90.

Because of this, I suggest that the second DPS slot be changed to a "free" slot that accepts all comers. I believe this would decrease queue times across the board except for ranged dps, who wouldn't really be too much more screwed than they already are. But more importantly it would make things MORE INTERESTING.

The same should happen for Syrcus Tower. Each alliance gets one tank, two healers, 3 dps and 2 free slots. Since healers and tanks are perfectly capable of DPSing to some degree, and the checks aren't particularly harsh.

[Ddmk]

Dps would fill "free slot" every single time and besides why would you need another tank/heal on such "faceroll easy" 4 man content

[Kuwagami]

Dps would fill "free slot" every single time and besides why would you need another tank/heal on such "faceroll easy" 4 man content

way to get even less tanks on content where they're needed

[Yonko]

Dps would fill "free slot" every single time and besides why would you need another tank/heal on such "faceroll easy" 4 man content

I agree DPS would most likely end up filling the slot every time (there is a reason tanks and healers get quick queues). As for why you would need another I believe that the OP is not saying you need another one but that you could do the dungeons with 2/1/1, 1/2/1, or how it is now 1/1/2 and having a "free" slot would allow for the very limited times when you are waiting on a dps for the party to form and go anyways.

[Alistaire]

DPS would fill it most times making this suggestion pointless.
The times they wouldn't fill it would make this suggestion bad.

[sanosuke001]

I could see making that second dps slot "optional" ie. we can start with 1/1/1 but if a second dps comes along, throw him in. Otherwise, 2 tanks or 2 heals would limit other groups from running and slow down queue times for dps even more; thus a terrible idea.

[Ashkendor]

I could see making that second dps slot "optional" ie. we can start with 1/1/1 but if a second dps comes along, throw him in. Otherwise, 2 tanks or 2 heals would limit other groups from running and slow down queue times for dps even more; thus a terrible idea.

So much this. It would slow things down more than anything. Personally, I don't want a second tank joining my run; it's not needed and it would seriously gimp the group when it comes to DPS check mechanics.

Imagine the tank wars we have in 24 man content taking place in a 4 man dungeon. -.-

[MilesSaintboroguh]

You can already do this. It's called make your own party.

[SirTaint]

It's not a bad idea and wouldn't change much. A good war or PLD with str gear will out parse most of the people you find in DF. Same thing for good SCHs.

[Alistaire]

It's not a bad idea and wouldn't change much. A good war or PLD with str gear will out parse most of the people you find in DF. Same thing for good SCHs.

Love the logic here. Random DF person will be fine if they're a good PLD/SCH because a good PLD/SCH is better than a random DF person.

It's also a terrible idea because even if your random DF person happens to be better than a random DF person in that case you're taking a tank/healer away from another group.