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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    ...How? You'll still need to gather tanks and healers which apparently not many people like to play as, so the wait times will not change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    ...How? You'll still need to gather tanks and healers which apparently not many people like to play as, so the wait times will not change.
    Easily. A dungeon designed around 1 tank, 1 healer, and 6 dps, in the same queue as roulette high lvl, would mean 1 dungeon queue pop taking 3 times the # of dps out of the queue.
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    Don't even need a DPS. Just did Titan and we lost both DPS with about 25% life left on him. With just me and the healer left I was able to take him down the rest of the way. (though it was story mode Titan).

    I know we needed the DPS to get that far was just kind of funny.
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    I think OP is trolling. Has to be. Queue times are bad enough for DPS without hairbrained nonsense like this screwing it up worse. If anything they should do the smart thing and -add- a DPS slot to each light party and buff mob HP accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexxa View Post
    I think OP is trolling. Has to be. Queue times are bad enough for DPS without hairbrained nonsense like this screwing it up worse. If anything they should do the smart thing and -add- a DPS slot to each light party and buff mob HP accordingly.
    Considering how much I've seen some healers struggle with just a tank and 2 DPS, I predict healers would become the rare species if SE were to do this. Unless they added a DPS slot and left the mobs/difficulty as it currently stands, anyway. No one likes to have extra burdens placed on them after they've gotten used to doing things a certain way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixi View Post
    Considering how much I've seen some healers struggle with just a tank and 2 DPS, I predict healers would become the rare species if SE were to do this. Unless they added a DPS slot and left the mobs/difficulty as it currently stands, anyway. No one likes to have extra burdens placed on them after they've gotten used to doing things a certain way.
    Considering most healers can DPS most of the time anyway, I'd prefer to have more dps so I can do my actual assigned job.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    No it wouldn't. You still have long wait times cause too nany people are still playing as dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    No it wouldn't. You still have long wait times cause too nany people are still playing as dps.
    How many? An infinite number? No, of course not. So let's say there's 100 dps in queues with 5 tanks and 5 healers popping every 5 minutes.

    If each of those tank/healer sets takes 2 dps how long will it take to go through 100 dps in queue?

    How long if they take 4 dps?

    Seriously, it's like a grade 2 math question.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    You can already do that with a premade party. Unless you are giving people bigger rewards for taking this risk, no one will do it. You literally cannot win without a healer (and not the lol cross class healing) and people would probably start to drop out the minute that the random classes aren't synchronized well. I remember a few occasions on Ifrit HM where several party members immediately quit before the fight began because we had no Black Mages to AOE LB the nails; something like that would happen too often in your proposal.


    Say "it's optional" all you like, but I'd like to see you or anyone else try to progress through an instance without a proper healer.
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    why not put an extra free slot and keep things the way things are, have a fifth person to a 4 ppl dungeon. Arcanists have a pet with them which makes a party of four=>five so have a fifth person but make it optional cuz if an Arcanist shows up then a fifth person cant come in.
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