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  1. #281
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    Onidemon's Avatar
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    Honestly, if the markets weren't there you would all be begging for an AH and not something like the market wards. A lot of people are just afraid of changes and some are just allergic to wtv sounds like a WOW feature... even if that feature was in FFXI long before WOW had it.
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  2. #282
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    Ward was a good idea until the area was fully crowd, Auction House is the only way to go. they should put off ward and give instead the "mog house" system in the marker ward place !
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    Il est possible de dépassé la limite des 1ooo caractères, il suffit d'éditer son post ~

  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    1) so i dont care if u want an AH coz u cant move 15 seconds. After that: "Why we cant open and buy from anywhere?, i want a menu to buy via linkshell!!" and in the end, your character will be killing mobs in your mog house playing a console, buying stuff via NPC linkshell, your retainer crafting for you, and u calling pizzahut to improve your stats...

    2) i can remember a game with posible best AH ever and lots of players in rolanberry selling stuff in bazaar... ohh wait, could be coz AH had taxes? i hope if they implement AH add 5% and 10% taxes for u lazy guys, and allow MW to us without taxes and some fixs/upgrades
    Yay slippery slope! Wait, I mean. . .

    Yes, people will always want to take an easy way out. There's a difference between wanting to take the easy way out, and wanting basic functionality. Fact is market wards as they stand are missing a lot of functionality, which is all most of us are asking for.

    Also, I wouldn't say XI had the best AH ever. WoW would let you post every single item in your inventory that wasn't bound to you all at the same time, compared to XI's limit of 7 items at a time. WoW also let you compare prices, which, if I'm not mistaken, XI didn't let you do (never played XI, to be honest). As far as the taxes, I wouldn't mind paying a straight 5% across the board, or even 10% across the board. What I do mind is knowing that I could be paying 2% instead if it weren't for crappy design.

    The sad thing is, I'm not even pro-AH. I just think your arguments suck as much as the wards do right now.
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  4. #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Yay slippery slope! Wait, I mean. . .

    Yes, people will always want to take an easy way out. There's a difference between wanting to take the easy way out, and wanting basic functionality. Fact is market wards as they stand are missing a lot of functionality, which is all most of us are asking for.

    Also, I wouldn't say XI had the best AH ever. WoW would let you post every single item in your inventory that wasn't bound to you all at the same time, compared to XI's limit of 7 items at a time. WoW also let you compare prices, which, if I'm not mistaken, XI didn't let you do (never played XI, to be honest). As far as the taxes, I wouldn't mind paying a straight 5% across the board, or even 10% across the board. What I do mind is knowing that I could be paying 2% instead if it weren't for crappy design.

    The sad thing is, I'm not even pro-AH. I just think your arguments suck as much as the wards do right now.
    You said everything that needed to be said. AH for the win
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  5. #285
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    Chezen Lightbreak
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Honestly, if the markets weren't there you would all be begging for an AH and not something like the market wards. A lot of people are just afraid of changes and some are just allergic to wtv sounds like a WOW feature... even if that feature was in FFXI long before WOW had it.
    AH is a change? AH's are common. MW aren't really unheard of either.

    My preference does have a bit of "been there, done that" in it, and it's true that I enjoy the MW as is, but it's also because I can see potential in them. There's a saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water." That's been happening all over FFXIV already (although I understand why), I'd hate to see it happen to the MW too.

    If anything, it's people asking for "standard features" that are afraid of change. But it's SE's fault really. Now they have to do what they have to do to save the ship. Although, I think it will still be fun.
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    Last edited by Chezen; 07-13-2011 at 01:37 AM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  6. #286
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    You're a level-headed person, Chezen. Tell me why you think MW are better than an AH. I'm not poking fun, just honestly curious.
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  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by quantumsaint View Post
    You're a level-headed person, Chezen. Tell me why you think MW are better than an AH. I'm not poking fun, just honestly curious.
    I don't think they are "better". I think they are fun. I like searching for the items, and I like the quiet Wards. I like that they are, in my opinion, an oasis to the busy streets of Uldah.

    When I go to the wards, I look up what I want and go to the retainer, who is often decked out in what they are selling, which I think is cute. I also like all the names people come up with for their retainers, it's entertaining.

    When I find my item, I'll look and see what else that seller is selling. Then I might browse some of the retainers nearby, or check a few of the others selling the items I want, in case they are +1/2/3. If I am trying to craft something, I'll sit down and craft and... oop, I forgot something. Run off and find what I'm missing, and then craft right there in the quiet. None of this is an experience I can get from an AH, except for browsing maybe.

    This is just my opinion, and my experience. I don't think it's wrong to like to get your items and get moving to the areas another person thinks is fun, nor is it wrong that another sees the wards as lifeless and wants to see them more busy. If the Wards were to be kept at all, they would need to be rehauled in a way that would be appealing to more people. I understand that. But I'm personally the kind of person, that while I like some things to be fast paced, I also like to "stop and smell the roses" (although I might not want to smell what's in the Wards. They do look in need of a good cleaning ).
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    Last edited by Chezen; 07-13-2011 at 03:31 AM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  8. #288
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    Seif Dincht
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Honestly, if the markets weren't there you would all be begging for an AH and not something like the market wards. A lot of people are just afraid of changes and some are just allergic to wtv sounds like a WOW feature... even if that feature was in FFXI long before WOW had it.
    Thank god somebody still has common sense here. Very good points there!
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  9. #289
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    Issue is “unable to summon anymore retainer in this zone” meaning Uldah’s Ward

    SE just need to give us the following
    Increase maximum # of retainers capacity (will have it 1.19).
    Be able to purchase items under the search menu.
    Link/Combine up the three market wards.
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  10. #290
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    I think they should do away with search feature, but that's me. I'd like for people who want to sell their wares to actually have to hawk it to other players. This set and forget shit is dumb.
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