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  1. #271
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    Man this shit is getting old.

    I don't care if people want to use a ridiculous ward system for whatever reason, but they need to implement some other system for the normal population who don't think trawling through boring rooms full of lifeless husks is fun. I want to open a menu, buy what I want, and go do something actually fun.

    And I can guarantee you that isn't just my opinion, in it's current state the wards aren't going to help attract anyone, and I hope to god the vocal minority (yes, you are a minority) doesn't cause this kind of crap to continue.

    Edit: It would be quite hilarious to watch if they implemented an auction house alongside the current wards, I'm pretty confident the wards would die horribly.
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  2. #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    Man this shit is getting old.

    I don't care if people want to use a ridiculous ward system for whatever reason.......

    Edit: It would be quite hilarious to watch if they implemented an auction house alongside the current wards, I'm pretty confident the wards would die horribly.
    1) so i dont care if u want an AH coz u cant move 15 seconds. After that: "Why we cant open and buy from anywhere?, i want a menu to buy via linkshell!!" and in the end, your character will be killing mobs in your mog house playing a console, buying stuff via NPC linkshell, your retainer crafting for you, and u calling pizzahut to improve your stats...

    2) i can remember a game with posible best AH ever and lots of players in rolanberry selling stuff in bazaar... ohh wait, could be coz AH had taxes? i hope if they implement AH add 5% and 10% taxes for u lazy guys, and allow MW to us without taxes and some fixs/upgrades
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    I'm sorry if you like the MW but honestly it does not matter when there's nothing on sale because most players don't use it due to not liking it.
    Really? So that's why people are complaining they can't put up their retainer because the Ul'dah wards are crammed to capacity?
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  4. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    1) so i dont care if u want an AH coz u cant move 15 seconds. After that: "Why we cant open and buy from anywhere?, i want a menu to buy via linkshell!!" and in the end, your character will be killing mobs in your mog house playing a console, buying stuff via NPC linkshell, your retainer crafting for you, and u calling pizzahut to improve your stats...
    Great strawman argument.

    But there's a big difference between making a feature that's inaccessible and inconvenient into an accessible and convenient one; and turning the entire game into an easy snoozefest interactive movie. The former makes it more fun, the latter makes it boring.

    2) i can remember a game with posible best AH ever and lots of players in rolanberry selling stuff in bazaar... ohh wait, could be coz AH had taxes? i hope if they implement AH add 5% and 10% taxes for u lazy guys, and allow MW to us without taxes and some fixs/upgrades
    It wasn't just taxes that made people set up bazaars in FFXI. It was also because AH was limited to 7 slots, so you pretty much had to reserve those slots for items that you knew were going to sell fast and on the first try. There were also tons of items that could be bazaared or traded, but could not be placed up for auction.

    Doesn't matter though. Give us a WOW-style AH with a 5% tax and the majority of people will STILL use it over MW because it's infinitely more convenient.
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  5. #275
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    LoL @ people still replying in this tired old thread and keeping it alive >.< ... oops Guess I just did the same :P
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  6. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    Really? So that's why people are complaining they can't put up their retainer because the Ul'dah wards are crammed to capacity?

    The fact that the ward keep crashing even without offering 30% of the very basic gear is not a counter argument.

    It's only you highlighting the technical difficulties of this broken system and further proof why the 3d models and zoning should be done away with.
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    The fact that the ward keep crashing even without offering 30% of the very basic gear is not a counter argument.

    It's only you highlighting the technical difficulties of this broken system and further proof why the 3d models and zoning should be done away with.
    The wards haven't crashed in a coon's age (comparatively speaking).

    The only true functionality problem at this point is being overcrowded, part of which is happening because everyone camps at Uldah, and that for reasons that go beyond the market wards. The rest of the argument is convenience vs. immersion, with some better asthetics thrown in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  8. #278
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    Well loading screens do a pretty good job of destroying the immersion for me.

    Whatever imagination you are using to explain yourself why people take several moments to be seen and only in your close vicinity in the wards surely you can also imagine something just as plausible to happen behind an AH counter.
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  9. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    Well loading screens do a pretty good job of destroying the immersion for me.

    Whatever imagination you are using to explain yourself why people take several moments to be seen and only in your close vicinity in the wards surely you can also imagine something just as plausible to happen behind an AH counter.
    The same imagination I use when it takes several moments for player's avatars to load at the leve counter.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't consider either view to be right or wrong, it's just different perspectives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  10. #280
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    Even WoW has loading screens, but when I played it, those didn't by any chance break the game immersion. Same goes with XIV.
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