Syrcus Tower 1st boss

[Edli]

Don't get me wrong - I was brand spanking new too. And after the first 2 wipes, it was all good. But there was a very definite line between those of us that wanted to learn and adapt, and those that wanted to Leeroy.

After 5+ wipes, its time to stop Leeroying

Still, there is only one day people can go blind on content without everyone bitching and moaning at their face and that's on patch day. You have people that are not interested on end game but are there only for the cutscenes of the new content. Combine that with 24 players and almost everyone having zero knowledge and yeah, that's the first day for you, and that's fine. Don't expect a speedrun or even a win on first day. Is fine if you get it but is not a given.

[Tupsi]

Seriously, don't complain on first day. Most of them are going blind on it.

Except:

(Get Lightning Orb - Run to the pillar by your party, A left, C right, b towards back.) People still don't.
(Get Ice Orb, run it away from party but staying close, just not close enough to freeze everyone.) - People run to the party still.
(Get Fire Orb, run it to the frozen people.) People don't. You can lay out how to do it exactly and people still won't do it.

So yes, it's the first 2 days basically, but when you get told how to do it and people don't listen...is the point of the OP. So no matter how you slice it, we were all brand new, it's still new but mechanics have been figured out and enough people that know it still queue up for it and will explain some general tips. The orbs tend to be what people mess up the most, people understand the panels for daybreak naturally due to Archeron in Labyrinth.

[Edli]

So yes, it's the first 2 days basically, but when you get told how to do it and people don't listen...is the point of the OP.

Well it doesn't change a thing if you complain. It has always been like this and it will always be like this. On first few days, you're not going to have normal runs.

[TakKuroda]

We had a good group. One person explained the entire fight and took questions. We took our time with it and got it on the second try.

[Obysuca]

My first run of CT2 last night took nearly the full 1:20 due to multiple wipes on each boss because people wouldn't listen.

I ran it four times yesterday and almost used up the full time each time. I get it's the first day but come on people :/ They kept wiping to the same stuff over and over and over even when someone perfectly explained it. Don't get me started on the second boss where no one tether's the robots -.- I've had everything from healers kiting them to even tanks doing it, not just once, but 3-4 times. I've even had healers in high allagan just stand there doing nothing while the pt dies or they'll completely ignore everyone else in the pt but themself and one other person.

Then there's the idiot healers who die once, insta warp out thinking it's a wipe, then when we could have used the healer lb and won, guess what? We can't -.- Then we wiped at 1-2%. This has happened multiple times in CT2 too, this bs needs to stop. Not pointing fingers, but if you're a healer and you die, just stay there, other people can raise you.

It's also no fun when the runs are so bad and the only thing that drops from every single chest (being serious), was drg. One run that was the only thing that dropped -.- Not a single drg in the pt.


Though, CT2 is fun (isn't when people pull that crap lol) but I feel they could have done so much more with it rather than "tiny bit of stairs, boss, repeat" :/ They could have easily stretched it out into turns like coil with as massive as it looks on the inside

[Millerna]

So yes, it's the first 2 days basically, but when you get told how to do it and people don't listen...

Getting something explained to you doesn't mean you'll immediately be perfect.. Everyone needs to experience the fight/mechanics first hand and some require multiple wipes to finally get the hang of it. That doesn't mean they're leeroying or stupid or trolls, it just means they require a little more time. The time required to learn the mechanics also changes per fight, and even per class. The popular example is Titan, which is far easier as a tank or dps than it as healer, especially white mage. Even though it's the same mechanic, a healer needs to keep track of more things during the fight, which might distract them from dodging things perfectly.

[Suirieko]

After wiping over and over it became blatantly apparent why most players can't succeed in endgame.

The boss only has 5 or so mechanics, and a very forgiving time period to complete them. Still... there are people freezing other people, people evaporating safety pools, people lunching around in AoE. And after wiping multiple times, when someone tries to explain why people are dying over and over, they get yelled at for being bossy or told to STFU.

No one checks tooltips
No one wants to listen

Sure its the first day, but none of this is rocket surgery.

This raid should be called "Circus Tower" amirite?!

Welcome to the dungeon that separates good players from the scrubs. This is a great thing. Please keep this up.

And, SE, for the love of GOD, do NOT make this and ANY of the new dungeon easier, like you did with Pharos Sirius, and number of others.

[NyneAlexander]

Getting something explained to you doesn't mean you'll immediately be perfect.. Everyone needs to experience the fight/mechanics first hand and some require multiple wipes to finally get the hang of it. That doesn't mean they're leeroying or stupid or trolls, it just means they require a little more time.

Nah, when, after a few wipes, someone tries to further explain or reiterate mechanics, and they're told to STFU while someone else runs in and starts the fight, they're leeroying. And stupid. And trolls.

[Eekiki]

Welcome to the dungeon that separates good players from the scrubs. This is a great thing. Please keep this up.

And, SE, for the love of GOD, do NOT make this and ANY of the new dungeon easier, like you did with Pharos Sirius, and number of others.

This this this a thousand million billion times this. I *love* the difficulty level on Syrcus Tower. There is plenty of other stuff in the game that caters to lazies and low IQs.

[NyneAlexander]

Make no mistake everyone: I love the difficulty level too and am not shy towards mechanics that actually require thought. I just hate it when mechanics require thought and people don't think.

On the bright side, its very possible to do this entire raid with 2 parties because one is composed of total boneheads who end up totally dead the entire fight(s). I'm looking at you, Party A from primal data center at 11:30 PM EST last night!