Syrcus Tower 1st boss

[NyneAlexander]

After wiping over and over it became blatantly apparent why most players can't succeed in endgame.

The boss only has 5 or so mechanics, and a very forgiving time period to complete them. Still... there are people freezing other people, people evaporating safety pools, people lunching around in AoE. And after wiping multiple times, when someone tries to explain why people are dying over and over, they get yelled at for being bossy or told to STFU.

No one checks tooltips
No one wants to listen

Sure its the first day, but none of this is rocket surgery.

This raid should be called "Circus Tower" amirite?!

[Edli]

Seriously, don't complain on first day. Most of them are going blind on it.

[Tupsi]

Seriously, don't complain on first day. Most of them are going blind on it.

Except:

(Get Lightning Orb - Run to the pillar by your party, A left, C right, b towards back.) People still don't.
(Get Ice Orb, run it away from party but staying close, just not close enough to freeze everyone.) - People run to the party still.
(Get Fire Orb, run it to the frozen people.) People don't. You can lay out how to do it exactly and people still won't do it.

So yes, it's the first 2 days basically, but when you get told how to do it and people don't listen...is the point of the OP. So no matter how you slice it, we were all brand new, it's still new but mechanics have been figured out and enough people that know it still queue up for it and will explain some general tips. The orbs tend to be what people mess up the most, people understand the panels for daybreak naturally due to Archeron in Labyrinth.

[Edli]

So yes, it's the first 2 days basically, but when you get told how to do it and people don't listen...is the point of the OP.

Well it doesn't change a thing if you complain. It has always been like this and it will always be like this. On first few days, you're not going to have normal runs.

[Millerna]

So yes, it's the first 2 days basically, but when you get told how to do it and people don't listen...

Getting something explained to you doesn't mean you'll immediately be perfect.. Everyone needs to experience the fight/mechanics first hand and some require multiple wipes to finally get the hang of it. That doesn't mean they're leeroying or stupid or trolls, it just means they require a little more time. The time required to learn the mechanics also changes per fight, and even per class. The popular example is Titan, which is far easier as a tank or dps than it as healer, especially white mage. Even though it's the same mechanic, a healer needs to keep track of more things during the fight, which might distract them from dodging things perfectly.

[NyneAlexander]

Getting something explained to you doesn't mean you'll immediately be perfect.. Everyone needs to experience the fight/mechanics first hand and some require multiple wipes to finally get the hang of it. That doesn't mean they're leeroying or stupid or trolls, it just means they require a little more time.

Nah, when, after a few wipes, someone tries to further explain or reiterate mechanics, and they're told to STFU while someone else runs in and starts the fight, they're leeroying. And stupid. And trolls.

[Millerna]

Nah, when, after a few wipes, someone tries to further explain or reiterate mechanics, and they're told to STFU while someone else runs in and starts the fight, they're leeroying. And stupid. And trolls.

Depends on how the fights get explained as well.. More often than not it's along the lines of 'omg noob' this and 'lol you suck' that .. Not saying that's what happened in your case, and obviously there are people doing it on purpose as well, especially on launch day of new content. And well, there's always the language thing, not everyone will understand an explanation done in English, or might misunderstand...

I guess what I'm getting at is that people in general should be a little more understanding, and think before they go ranting in party or alliance chat, or playing the blame game on forums ... That might be too much to ask though

[Tupsi]

Getting something explained to you doesn't mean you'll immediately be perfect..

It's not about perfection - It's about listening, as the rest of my post stated, you kind of left that important fact out. Nothing will be perfect but if you flatout not listen you'll never progress.

That doesn't mean they're leeroying or stupid or trolls, it just means they require a little more time

After 4 wipes and people still not listening makes it kind of obvious they're not listening, not just "taking time", they just won't listen to instruction. Has nothing to do with trolling, has to do with simply not listening to the people who patiently explain the fight to you, numerous times.

[Radacci]

Seriously, don't complain on first day. Most of them are going blind on it.

everyone went in blind, the first day...
guess i got lucky, and we only wiped once or twice/boss. It shouldn't take more than that, if someone is explaining the mechanics.

[Zarzak]

After wiping over and over it became blatantly apparent why most players can't succeed in endgame.

The boss only has 5 or so mechanics, and a very forgiving time period to complete them. Still... there are people freezing other people, people evaporating safety pools, people lunching around in AoE. And after wiping multiple times, when someone tries to explain why people are dying over and over, they get yelled at for being bossy or told to STFU.

No one checks tooltips
No one wants to listen

Sure its the first day, but none of this is rocket surgery.

This raid should be called "Circus Tower" amirite?!

Welcome to what modern MMOs have let the playerbase become. After 5-6 wipes onthe final boss one run last night someone was STILL asking for the yellow circles to be explained (for the 10th time).....

This is NOT COMPLICATED. You should have figured it out at most after 2-3 attempts since you would at that point have seen the mechanic 5-6 times at least.


Or the 6-7 wipes on the 2nd boss one attempt because people couldn't understand "bring an add to the spot marked and kill it"

Seriously, don't complain on first day. Most of them are going blind on it.

Going blind into it and being blind are 2 different things. After 3-4 attempts everyone should at LEAST know what they should do... Even if they don't know WHY they are doing it

This this this a thousand million billion times this. I *love* the difficulty level on Syrcus Tower. There is plenty of other stuff in the game that caters to lazies and low IQs.

Uhh..... If you consider Syrcus Tower "difficult" there may be a problem. Besides this thread isn't about it being difficult this is about it catering to those lazies and low IQs you talk about... And them STILL failing.

I can ask any 5 year old on the street that if they have a fire and a ice cube how to melt it. I bet they can figure it out.

Or "Hey little kid. Stand in that big circle next to the blue light"


Want to guess how many people after 5-6 attempts were STILL NOT STANDING IN THE DAMN CIRCLE?