PLD dealing with these rediculous speedrun parties... A little help?

[Kendah]

This whole post..... This is how you aoe tank on pld. Anybody that says pld can't aoe tank clearly can't play the job.

I speed run it with two i104+ Blm's that do easy 340+ dps on turn 8. We speed run in less than 10 mins, I've yet to have any problems holding aoe threat, and one doesn't even have quelling strikes....

Not sure if you ever played a WAR but you sir sure act like you never did....WAR are more suited to AOE aggro holding than PLD and its definitely an easier job for WAR to group aggro.

[Ashkendor]

Not sure if you ever played a WAR but you sir sure act like you never did....WAR are more suited to AOE aggro holding than PLD and its definitely an easier job for WAR to group aggro.

Except he's not saying that Warrior isn't more suited. Anyone that even knows the basics of a warrior's moveset knows that Warriors are better equipped for AoE tanking. He's just saying that Paladins can do it too.

[ZechsRaganrock]

Except he's not saying that Warrior isn't more suited. Anyone that even knows the basics of a warrior's moveset knows that Warriors are better equipped for AoE tanking. He's just saying that Paladins can do it too.

yup that's exactly what I'm saying.

I'm not arguing aoe threat between war and pld, I'm simply saying to the ppl in here who are saying stuff like "at some point as pld you are going to become a viewer when aoe tanking". That's a load of bull-honkey~

Please read what is being said before you start saying annoying comments like "you must have never player war" blah blah blah....

[ZechsRaganrock]

You know WARs can ideally run this in 5min, right? I've done it in 6 in random party finder groups.

Doesn't seem balanced.

Haha, I'm talking about the full run... Not the first two bosses. I have my doubts the full run can be done in 5 mins regardless of set up...

[Giantbane]

Haha, I'm talking about the full run... Not the first two bosses. I have my doubts the full run can be done in 5 mins regardless of set up...

Then you've got extremely good DPS and healer. Imagine how much faster it would be by adding a Warrior who does damage while generating AoE threat (something like twice as fast, mind you).

[ZechsRaganrock]

Then you've got extremely good DPS and healer. Imagine how much faster it would be by adding a Warrior who does damage while generating AoE threat (something like twice as fast, mind you).

Urgh, that's exactly my point... I normally do it with vey good dps and healers from my static, and I still don't become a "viewer" on pld.

The point I am trying to make, is that pld can infact aoe tank all dungeons for speed runs, even with very good aoe dps just fine.... Stop making the topic about how fast it can be done with war, or how much better war are at aoe threat. That's not what is being disputed, the op is talking about doing speed runs on pld... I have a war, that I often do speed runs with lol. I don't need to imagine how much faster it can be done with war, I know because I have one and use it for speed runs. The answer is, not much faster.... I don't know why people insist on telling me about war....

[Nicole_Valkyrie]

Dont mind them. Pala is fine and you can do speed runs. But I would like if Circle of Scorn could creat enemity

[Avy4576]

Stop Stop Stop. The issue isn't anything the guy is doing wrong or anything like that. The issue is with that piece of shit enmity ability called flash. It has no scaling to speak of and no matter what you try to tell him to do its not going to change. Any thing to do with speed runs or holding a group of mobs is best done by a Warrior due to them having overpower which has great scaling with level and gear. And this isn't a Warrior tank trying to show that they are the dominant tank. Truth is I'm a Paladin main tank and have been playing as a paladin since 2.0 and flash has been a terrible ability since day one. And for those of you who are going to say "well maybe you need to learn to play your class". Take a look at my gear and my weapon I know how the fuck to play my class better than most people.

[Nicole_Valkyrie]

Well... I understand you, really, but I don't think that is THAT bad... But I really would love yo see Circle of Scorn with aggro T-T

[Nicole_Valkyrie]

And, besides, it's true that I never played as Warrior for now. Well, I hope they can make Pala as good as warrior someday