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    What I don't understand is how its the SAME as fates? Its a completely different system with different goals and rewards and monsters. So basically, the ONLY thing that makes them even remotely similar is the fact that there is no claim to it. Why this surprises people when Yoshi-P has said on multiple occasions that this is his personal vision baffles me. He's not going to create content that is going to exclude any part of the community, which is exactly what a claiming system would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    What I don't understand is how its the SAME as fates? Its a completely different system with different goals and rewards and monsters. So basically, the ONLY thing that makes them even remotely similar is the fact that there is no claim to it. Why this surprises people when Yoshi-P has said on multiple occasions that this is his personal vision baffles me. He's not going to create content that is going to exclude any part of the community, which is exactly what a claiming system would do.
    Not to mention once the Honeymoon phases comes and goes, you more than likely need to form a group for them instead of hearing people shout IT'S HERE! :P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Not to mention once the Honeymoon phases comes and goes, you more than likely need to form a group for them instead of hearing people shout IT'S HERE! :P.
    Also, there is always the possibility that less people will be hunting these targets down as it gets later and later in the week. Maybe I'll wait til Monday night just before reset to wrangle some people down to try this out and see if it is less zergy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    He's not going to create content that is going to exclude any part of the community
    Tell that to PvP players losing their ranks for having to change GC to play with friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Tell that to PvP players losing their ranks for having to change GC to play with friends.
    Hate to tell yeah. That's not exclusion. That's called Choice and sacrifice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Tell that to PvP players losing their ranks for having to change GC to play with friends.
    Its not even close to the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Its not even close to the same thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    Hate to tell yeah. That's not exclusion. That's called Choice and sacrifice.
    That is exclusion, you make players not able to participate of certain content because they play another. Don`t go arround white knighting please. This game isn`t made for everyone to do everything with everyone. And surely hunts shouldn`t be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    That is exclusion, you make players not able to participate of certain content because they play another. Don`t go arround white knighting please. This game isn`t made for everyone to do everything with everyone. And surely hunts shouldn`t be.
    Exclusion would mean that you couldn't play the content at all. Its a pretty simple definition and has nothing to do with "white-knighting". Unlike making a claiming system that would certainly exclude people from the hunt simply because of a claim system that would prevent them from killing and getting credit for a hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    Don`t go arround white knighting please.
    Stop using phrases you don't understand the meaning of, just because you don't like the response you get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang View Post
    That is exclusion, you make players not able to participate of certain content because they play another. Don`t go arround white knighting please. This game isn`t made for everyone to do everything with everyone. And surely hunts shouldn`t be.
    If you are part of a GC you can play front lines. Yes
    Can you team up with friends outside of your GC, NO
    Can you or they Change GC's. Yes.
    Can you Then Play with your Friends. Yes.

    It's not and Exclusion. It's a Choice. Frankly it doesn't matter. If I have a friend in my FC not part of our GC. They are in the wrong GC and
    deserve me stabbing them in the face during Frontlines. This has nothing to do with the topic so start your own about how you feel excluded
    because you chose the wrong GC.
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