So uh... what makes elite hunts different from a FATE then?

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

They don't lose the ranks. It is still there in the old GC while they build up a new rank in the new GC.
Excluding them from pvp in this example would be if they can't use the old ranks and can't build up a new rank.

You are right, they don`t lose it.

They just can`t use their improved skills, their gear, everyone knows changing GC comes with a lobotomy. Till a month pass and they change back or they do again a bazillion fixed matches. But no, is not excluding. hahahaha...

[Ultimatecalibur]

I see what the OP is getting at. If there is no claim system, how is this any different from FATES? Because they are tougher to find and they aren't in a purple area? I can see people shouting on a map when one of these babies spawn and then everyone and their mother zerg it and kill it within seconds.

They will all be level 50, they will be in remote areas of various (high level and low level) zones. S rank elite marks are likely designed to handle parties of i90+. Zerging is likely to be suicidal beyond even Odin.

[DoctorPepper]

Personally I'm hoping that the one major difference is in the difficulty, I don't want to see FATEs 2.0 either myself so I'm hoping that the elite marks are very challenging fights and that the difficulty can scale with something like the number or people in the zone or something along those lines.

For me, my personal grudge against FATEs has everything to do with the lack of difficulty to do them. Due to the lack of difficulty I find them extremely boring and repetitive, but I would love to see some open world bosses with challenging mechanics that prevent them from just being zerged to death. I would even love to see a boss or 2 that are so hard we can't beat them without an extreme level of coordination between multiple FCs.

[ruinedmirage]

Personally I'm hoping that the one major difference is in the difficulty, I don't want to see FATEs 2.0 either myself so I'm hoping that the elite marks are very challenging fights and that the difficulty can scale with something like the number or people in the zone or something along those lines.

For me, my personal grudge against FATEs has everything to do with the lack of difficulty to do them. Due to the lack of difficulty I find them extremely boring and repetitive, but I would love to see some open world bosses with challenging mechanics that prevent them from just being zerged to death. I would even love to see a boss or 2 that are so hard we can't beat them without an extreme level of coordination between multiple FCs.

Aren't Odin and Behemoth supposed to be elder primals or something. And people are expecting simple monsters to require MORE skill than defeating a Primal?! Uh....... no problem here, I guess...? Now you have to ask yourself if FFXIV prides itself more on the lore (see SMN thread) or its players and keeping them happy. Honestly, I don't know. Anything more than a zergfest seems kind of farfetched.

[DoctorPepper]

Aren't Odin and Behemoth supposed to be elder primals or something. And people are expecting simple monsters to require MORE skill than defeating a Primal?! Uh....... no problem here, I guess...? Now you have to ask yourself if FFXIV prides itself more on the lore (see SMN thread) or its players and keeping them happy. Honestly, I don't know. Anything more than a zergfest seems kind of farfetched.

According to Yoshi-P the elite marks are meant to be monsters that pose a great threat to the realm, not some simple monster. I'm not sure if you're trying to say they shouldn't be more powerful than Odin/Behemoth or if you're simply saying it probably won't happen (which I agree with). Considering how easy Odin and Behemoth are however I will be very disappointed if they are not more difficult.

Personally I'm still hoping that some day we get an Odin Extreme or something but it doesn't really fit into lore now that it's been used in the FATE. Regardless however, if your argument is that they shouldn't be harder because Odin/Behemoth are easy then I would have to disagree and say that Odin/Behemoth should be harder as well. Right now both of those FATEs are an absolute joke and always have been.

[Zumi]

They sound kind of similar to Odin. Well Odin is a fate but you can't see his circle till you are at him. The same thing could be said about elite marks but they don't have circles at all. You don't know where they are until someone finds one and starts shouting for people to kill it.

[ruinedmirage]

I'm just saying then, in terms of difficulty, speculation is: Elite Monster > Elder Primal > FATE boss > ladybug

That seems kind of backwards in terms of progression. Oh, wait ...... nevermind.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

I'm just saying then, in terms of difficulty, speculation is: Elite Monster > Elder Primal > FATE boss > ladybug

That seems kind of backwards in terms of progression. Oh, wait ...... nevermind.

That ladybug killed my mother… and RAPED MY FATHER! D:

[Haibel]

Topic. I guess we will see in a day, but right now it sounds like elite marks are just variations of the Odin/Behemoth FATE that will get swarmed by half the server at pop.

Not a fate, But I do for see zones getting locked from over population till the new wears off.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Not a fate, But I do for see zones getting locked from over population till the new wears off.

I think I am going to give it a try during the non prime play times on my server and see if that makes a difference. We will see tomorrow!