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  1. #21
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    How lifeless Eorzea is compared to Vana'diel.
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  2. #22
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    I feel like FFXIV probably had a full world, just like FFXI did, but someone on the old team accidentally spilled a vat of coffee on the computers with all of the data on them, and then Tanaka had to make his team come up with new zones on the fly.
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    SacredDawnFC.enjin.com
    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    I suppose those were good changes but I didn't get to the Abysea thingy that I know a lot of people are up in arms about but I hear that has ruined FFXI for the most part.
    From what I understand and I do agree with, that yeah Abyssea has ruined everything that made XI so great. Each expansion was unique with new areas and a grand storyline to play through, and didn't blatantly recycle old zones so callously as Abyssea does. They made older/lesser zones see more traffic from high level players than normal and that was a good thing to bring life back to semi-dead areas. With Abyssea though everything prior has became obsolete.

    I've spoken with one of my friends thats been playing since the JP release on PS2, and he tells me that once you get a job to lvl 30, you can enter Abyssea and just leech XP, stand there and do nothing most times, and you'll be lvl 90 in about 6-10hrs. Many times these lvl 30s are also just random new/old players just to fill a spot too. There are of course those that spend cruor buying keys to open chests that whole time, or other things, but yeah...so easy to get lvl 90 now.

    Still though, I really just want to play through all the missions for each expansion, and watch the story play out. I've always loved it, but never saw much of it, cause I'd get so far then couldn't find help to get past a particular chapter.
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  4. #24
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    Loki Vanheim
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    damn it was so beautiful, songs too omg and each zone is diffrent and not copy pasted all the time >.<

    come on Eorzea needs more life!
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailok View Post
    I feel like FFXIV probably had a full world, just like FFXI did, but someone on the old team accidentally spilled a vat of coffee on the computers with all of the data on them, and then Tanaka had to make his team come up with new zones on the fly.
    The sad thing is it was probably a hell of a lot harder to make copy/paste terrains than it would be to just model it all normally. You'd have to make all the sections tile and connect seamlessly.
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  6. #26
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    I was jus' messin' around. However, I don't think they needed to go as heavily in detail as far as pixels go as much as they did the characters. Had they toned it down to textures as it was in FFXI, we would have a much cheaper, yet much more beautiful game at the same time. sure, tone it up for the trees and grass and such so they look realistic, but but tone down the landscape a bit so you can do more with it. Kind of like Tera (and I'm not even a huge follower of Tera) does, they have high quality zones but they use textures. At least, from what I've heard.
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    SacredDawnFC.enjin.com
    Insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick.

  7. #27
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    Personally i don't care to have a "downloading data" screen during few seconds for having some REAL zones!

    And not a giant zone in which i don't know exactly where i am.
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  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalus View Post
    I've spoken with one of my friends thats been playing since the JP release on PS2, and he tells me that once you get a job to lvl 30, you can enter Abyssea and just leech XP, stand there and do nothing most times, and you'll be lvl 90 in about 6-10hrs.
    I wanna hurt Abyssea, but I'll never be able to hurt it the way it hurt me.
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  10. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigercub View Post
    I wanna hurt Abyssea, but I'll never be able to hurt it the way it hurt me.
    Hey TC ^^

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    Zanfire Leoz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalus View Post
    From what I understand and I do agree with, that yeah Abyssea has ruined everything that made XI so great. Each expansion was unique with new areas and a grand storyline to play through, and didn't blatantly recycle old zones so callously as Abyssea does. They made older/lesser zones see more traffic from high level players than normal and that was a good thing to bring life back to semi-dead areas. With Abyssea though everything prior has became obsolete.

    I've spoken with one of my friends thats been playing since the JP release on PS2, and he tells me that once you get a job to lvl 30, you can enter Abyssea and just leech XP, stand there and do nothing most times, and you'll be lvl 90 in about 6-10hrs. Many times these lvl 30s are also just random new/old players just to fill a spot too. There are of course those that spend cruor buying keys to open chests that whole time, or other things, but yeah...so easy to get lvl 90 now.

    Still though, I really just want to play through all the missions for each expansion, and watch the story play out. I've always loved it, but never saw much of it, cause I'd get so far then couldn't find help to get past a particular chapter.
    It pretty much made doing anything that wasnt abyssea....well useless. ALl that gear @ 75 you spent years getting, now middle of the road. Now every person could pretty easly get some of the best gear without a fraction of the time or effort. To some people, that was great, but to me...even with my tiny amount of endgame gear.... felt it was stupid.

    It pretty much made all those pieces of old endgame content (and there was LOTS of it) into wastes of time, it turned those zones you used to grind on or hunt NMs on, barren wastelands. The game hit easy mode for leveling and getting some of the great gear which turned off lots of people.
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