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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    So having to fly across the world and pay a reticulous amount of money to buy the ticket, air fare, hotel, food, etc...while others only need to buy the ticket because it's nearby seems fair?

    Hardly
    Since when was life fair? People travel across the world/country to go to Anime Expos and Comic Conventions all the time.
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  2. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Since when was life fair? People travel across the world/country to go to Anime Expos and Comic Conventions all the time.
    This isn't life, this is a video game we're talking about. Ultimately we want the two to remain separate as much as possible.

    Are you okay with the addition of a cash shop Tupsi? Because as I see it you seem to be okay with items being locked exclusively behind payment walls. If you're arguing that it's okay for these items to be exclusive only to those who could fork out the cash to go to this Fanfest then I don't see why you would have anything against them being sold individually, or any in game items being sold from SE at all.

    There should be no in game reward for going to Fanfest. It's a convention for the players to meet and engage directly with the development/community team and be in the presence of like-minded gamers. If there is any in game item then it should be offered to everyone equally and there should be no limit on the amount supplied for the duration it is sold.
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    Last edited by Nikita; 07-08-2014 at 12:01 AM.

  3. #133
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    Stop trying to argue against them, they (not saying names) already said they are not going to the event, after days seeing how they defend this "unfair exclusivity" i can only say they are lying.

    The players going to the fan fest will defend the exlusitvity, the players who don't care about it, will be quiet, and the ones unable to go for a wide range of reasons, being the main one the difference of money needed for ppl living far from the event, will complain.

    In the end SE will have to say something, because regardless of your opinions, this is an issue, and calling it entitlement or exclusivity will not solve the problem.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I would like to see your answer.
    There is nothing wrong with having Cait Sith Minion and Moogle Cap as pre-orders for buying the game early. There is nothing wrong with having limited time to be able to get exclusive "in game" items and after that if you didn't get it by either pre-ordering the actual game or doing the quest/event "in game" then you missed it. But is was accessible to everyone by either buying the game early or playing the game and not by going on an extravagant vacation in real life which has nothing to do with playing the game online directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Since when was life fair?
    And that is why people like playing games, because it is fair. Everyone pays the same subscription and everyone has access to everything the game offers. Doesn't matter where you were born, poor or rich, white or green, male or female.

    I prefer keeping the game like that. No reason why you have to mix it with real life.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kota_Foxfrey View Post
    There is nothing wrong with having Cait Sith Minion and Moogle Cap as pre-orders for buying the game early. There is nothing wrong with having limited time to be able to get exclusive "in game" items and after that if you didn't get it by either pre-ordering the actual game or doing the quest/event "in game" then you missed it. But is was accessible to everyone by either buying the game early or playing the game and not by going on an extravagant vacation in real life which has nothing to do with playing the game online directly.
    This is a common flaw I see in people's reasoning. They feel that because certain things, outside the hands of the people organizing the event, prevent themselves from going, therefore the event itself is unfair. And this is false.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    This is a common flaw I see in people's reasoning. They feel that because certain things, outside the hands of the people organizing the event, prevent themselves from going, therefore the event itself is unfair. And this is false.
    The event is not unfair but locking in game items to a real life event is unfair. If that is fair then just open up the cash shop, because it all boils down to money.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikita View Post
    The event is not unfair but locking in game items to a real life event is unfair. If that is fair then just open up the cash shop, because it all boils down to money.
    No, that's how you see it. It's a bonus/reward for people making the effort to come to the event SE made for them. Most people who want to go wouldn't care if it was given or not. But it's something SE wants to give those people for going, something they want them to have to "commemorate" that they went, for when they continue to play SE's game. Does it suck that not everyone will get it? In some ways sure, but not completely.

    A question was asked earlier in the thread about if there are people who would go JUST for the digital item, and yes there are. Not myself, I'd go just to go, but there are people who would go just for that one exclusive item. I've talked to people who've admitted it too.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    No, that's how you see it. It's a bonus/reward for people making the effort to come to the event SE made for them.
    That's now how I see it, that's just how it is. I've already stated multiple times that there should be no in game incentive for attending a real life event. We all pay the same monthly fee for this game and we want equal opportunity for these in game items. If most who go wouldn't care if it was given or not, then why are you still here posting? What is the point of you being here at all? Yes, SE wants to reward them and we get it, you keep saying that over and over. We are just voicing our input that we want in game items to be available to everyone equally.
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  10. #140
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    Well se already said it's exclusive for the people who go. They won't change that. And they shouldn't because it's them showing appreciation to the people who make it to the event

    It's rude and hateful to the people who are going, who are spending money, for your unto try and demand you get the same item as them. But no one on the forums can win the argument outside of a mod coming and saying ether "hey, they said this is staying exclusove" or "well the decided to give he item to everyone."

    when the event comes and goes. People will cry for a bit then get over it/forget. Then it'll happen again, people will cry about it, I'll say the same thing I did on here, and probably even quote this thread as a reference to it not changing.
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