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Thread: Vanity for pvp

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    You missed the point entirely, it's already known each team is going to have different name colors based on their GC.
    The point I made was if everyone was in vanity, how do you tell Maelstrom BLM1 to Maelstrom BLM2? They could easily wear the same vanity to confuse the opposing team.
    Then you gave the idea that "Oh well they could all have different names like in LoL/Dota!" Where EVERY member of each team has a unique color, do you expect them to have 72 unique colors for identification? Of course not.

    Take a look at all competitive games, they do not allow characters to look like others, for obvious reasons. In a competitive environment opponents need to be identified. Fast. Anything such as player choose-able vanity could interfere with this and give other players an unfair advantage. Sure, games like LoL or Dota allow customisation, but it's only customisation that retains the identity of the character, preventing confusion.
    In this game, where everyone could wear a bikini or a santa suit, it would be a nightmare.
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    Last edited by saeedaisspecial; 07-06-2014 at 12:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The reason it is disabled during pvp is probably so that people can't hide their PvP armor with PvE armor.
    Though in frontlines, PvE gear is to be preferred to PvP gear because Morale won't be in play.

    I'm all for vanity in Frontlines, but in arenas I'm on the fence about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    Though in frontlines, PvE gear is to be preferred to PvP gear because Morale won't be in play.

    I'm all for vanity in Frontlines, but in arenas I'm on the fence about.
    Source?

    On topic: Everyone has said it already. Vanity can cause confusion, and that's why it shouldn't be allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chambers View Post
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    From the letters from the Producer LIVE part XV.

    Q: What are the level requirements?
    A: The only requirement to participate is that you are level 50.

    For Frontline, we've implemented a new system referred to as "item level sync." We're still making final adjustments as to whether we will sync to item level 80 or 90, but if you wear equipment that is higher than this, it will be synced automatically. Additionally, the morale stat utilized in the Wolves' Den will not be used here, and fights will take place on a completely even playing field. However, you'll still be able to use PvP actions, and I believe this is where differences will develop. In the future we may utilize item level sync for different types of battles such as time attacks.
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    It's pretty easy to identify a class simply by the type of weapon they are using and the animations of their abilities. To say that it would be hard to distinguish classes is a bit ridiculous in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    Quote.
    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    It's pretty easy to identify a class simply by the type of weapon they are using and the animations of their abilities. To say that it would be hard to distinguish classes is a bit ridiculous in my opinion.
    That's how I feel about it.
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    I never understood this, fooling your opponents is as valid strategy as any other, but ppl tend to complain if pvp is more complex than capturing positions and killing the other team.

    Look at archeage, it's a pvp MMO and it has a vanity system that works everywhere, they can do that because their vanity system is as limited as ours.

    I don't think there are reasons to ban vanity in pvp for this game, but i'm not gonna cry for not having it, i just think everyone would love to have their own custom mark when doing pvp, and that's the reason behind having vanity in the game.
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    Last edited by Renik; 07-06-2014 at 08:09 PM.

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