[PETITION] Primal Mount Acquisition Adjustment

[GurrenLagann]

Since we are talking about Primal Mounts... This guy makes me cry all day everyday..
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2798651/

[TeganLaron]

Since we are talking about Primal Mounts... This guy makes me cry all day everyday..
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2798651/

Wow! Does anyone know this person? Just 'cos Yoshi-P said that "something happens" when you get them all.

EDIT: Had a look at his achievements, how the hell did he manage to do 200 high level PLD instances in one day O_O

[GurrenLagann]

Wow! Does anyone know this person? Just 'cos Yoshi-P said that "something happens" when you get them all.

EDIT: Had a look at his achievements, how the hell did he manage to do 200 high level PLD instances in one day O_O

HARDCORE T4 grind maybe?

What's interesting as well is that he has no tank relic...

[TeganLaron]

HARDCORE T4 grind maybe?

That's what I was thinking, but is that still even possible? I'm not good at Maths but 200 in one day doesn't seem feasible.

EDIT: Reached daily limit so replying here. Apparently I only get seven or eight posts a day...

I edited my post and I'll say this one extra detail, he has no tank relic.

How this guy got all 5 Primal Mounts AND the two tank mounts is beyond me. (also makes me want to cry)

Could be EX Primal or Turn 5 weapon I guess. But can't help being a bit suspicious. Every horse mount, as well as doing 200 PLD and WAR instances in the space of 1 and 2 days respectively. Seems a little fishy to me.

[GurrenLagann]

That's what I was thinking, but is that still even possible? I'm not good at Maths but 200 in one day doesn't seem feasible.

I edited my post and I'll say this one extra detail, he has no tank relic.

How this guy got all 5 Primal Mounts AND the two tank mounts is beyond me. (also makes me want to cry)

[Tridus1x]

I don't really care. And I don't whine about it on the forums. In fact I think SE should take a stand against the spoiled brats who whine about low drop rates instead of encouraging them to ruin the game for everyone else.

It's clear you missed the entire point of what I said. That is the part that is insane. You want zero discussion on anything in the game, with SE having full rights to do whatever they want. I see you enjoyed 1.0, I hate to break to you but that is in the past. In this FFXIV, the players concerns/suggestions actually matter.

So you didn't "turn around" anything. You just failed to understand what I said.

[Tridus1x]

I still laugh at the people who complain about drop rates, and that they are soooo low. And whatever.

1/1497966
1/2330169

See those numbers?

That's the drop chance of just 2 of the rare weapons in a game I used to play, phantasy star online. Those are 2 of the ones I pulled up quick. There are multiple 1/x(million) and 1/x(hundred thousands)

And to top it off some of those drop rates are after getting a rare form of a mob to spawn while running a map. So like 1/5000 chance of rare mob spawn, then 1/500000 chance for special weapon to drop. I laugh because these drop rates from ffxiv are nothing to what I've grown up on. You children complain way too much. And you even have it easy XD

Yes, yes, the lotto is hard to win as well.

/eyeroll

[Tridus1x]

And there are several mounts with an alternative to RNG, are they fun? NO! CNJ gets a mount from class quests. PLD and WAR get mounts from grinding 200 instances and that is definitely not fun, that I can guarantee from experience

So if isn't fun, why do you support the MMO grind? Because doing an instance 200 times is EXACTLY a MMO grind.

I think you are confused about what you even want.

Let me help you out. Mounts shouldn't be based on RNG. The end. Make it 100 kills or something like that. You want the grind, then support the actual grind.

[KandyKitten]

I still laugh at the people who complain about drop rates, and that they are soooo low. And whatever.

1/1497966
1/2330169

See those numbers?

That's the drop chance of just 2 of the rare weapons in a game I used to play, phantasy star online. Those are 2 of the ones I pulled up quick. There are multiple 1/x(million) and 1/x(hundred thousands)

And to top it off some of those drop rates are after getting a rare form of a mob to spawn while running a map. So like 1/5000 chance of rare mob spawn, then 1/500000 chance for special weapon to drop. I laugh because these drop rates from ffxiv are nothing to what I've grown up on. You children complain way too much. And you even have it easy XD

I'm not sure if you've grasped the understanding of the argument here. We're not comparing other games here, and we're not solely complaining about the drop rate itself. Had you perhaps read the arguments in favour of the petition, you'd know that. It's about comparing other acquisition methods in the game to one another and applying them to this particular instance. It is also not about the drop rate, but rather the drop rate mixed in with having to fight with seven others for that particular mount. And in the instance you lose, you finally see another one with a new party of seven and lose again in an endless struggle to never obtain the mount unless everyone passes, obtains it themselves, or you are the lucky one in the bunch. It's about rewarding those with dedication rather than those who aren't even interested in it but roll for the heck of it. Nowhere stated is it that we wish for it to be 'easier' to obtain, but rather more logical to obtain. A proposition for the mount was ~500 wins or so in that particular primal (or 200, doesn't matter), which is no easy task given it's difficult to even find that many people willing to run that many times. As I've stated previously...there is no real argument against this proposition. The only 'arguments' are comparing this game to other games, which is irrelevant - and by calling anyone for this petition spoiled "children" asking for hand-outs; which is nullified by the counter-argument for making it just as difficult but less reliant on others.

I'm just not sure why people are resorting to name calling, personal profiling, or flat-out getting aggressive when this is just a discussion for a game. There is no reason for any of that here.

[ShinkuTachi]

Completely agree with you. The people against this just keep resorting to childish insults as they are lacking in actual reasons for this not to be implemented.

People only resort to insults when they have no valid points to make.