If no one access a FC house in 35 Days you lose everything! Coming Patch 2.3 ><

[Lithera]

My friends don't join because their desired names are taken by n-months inactive lv1 players.
Why not remove those characters and release the names which are the real unique thing in a server?
Any house is not unique as there are 5 copies in 5wards, it seems a ward is just an instance.

Who doesn't join a game simply because their first choice of name is taken? I understand the inactive characters thing, but your friends must be trying to name themselves Cloud Strife and Tifa Lockheart or something. They need to be original. Having a first and last name makes it very unlikely a good original name will be taken. It's not like FFXI. Houses ARE unique btw. The plot may be the same but you build your own house with unique combinations of walls and roofs and interiors.

[R1dder]

I don't know. Visiting your hous once withing 35 days shouldn't be an impossible feat if you're an active player. Though, they should give an alternative - this could invite problems if people go on holiday or travel somewhere and wont be home.

I suggest they make it so that it is 35 days of inactivity AFTER your subsctiption fee expires. At least for the personal housing this is a very good option, i think. If they travel it's easy to renew the sub online and they wont have to access the game.

[Ryuko]

Other MMOs also have a feature where if you don't utilize your property for a certain amount of time, you will lose it. Just be thankful SE doesn't force your FC to pay monthly dues to keep your housing like I have seen in other MMOs. XD I think the thirty-five day rule is fair. Even if you are a small FC... NO ONE visiting the house for thirty-five days seems so unlikely. If literally no one in your FC is playing for over a month, it's not exactly fair that you are taking up real estate that other people could use. On my server, almost all houses are full -- and I'm sure plenty of Free Companies are eagerly waiting for the addition of new wards like my FC is. So, space is limited. This may not be true on the lower-population servers, but it certainly is on mine.

[joshsecret]

I suggest they make it so that it is 35 days of inactivity AFTER your subscription fee expires.

if nothing else, this^^

[LeonBlade]

Who here can afford to go on 35+ day long Holidays often enough for you to get screwed somehow by this system? On top of that, who here that goes on 35+ day long Holidays doesn't have access to the Internet on their entire trip? Let's be honest here, this doesn't affect anyone who goes on Holidays or anything, this only will affect people that just don't play the game very often if ever.

I'm the leader of a 5 person FC and I play this game every day and use my house every single day multiple times a day, I was the second house in the 1st Ward of The Goblet on Behemoth, I got a small house back when prices were close to 8 million gil. In reality, there are only two people including myself that are actually active players. If you can't find the time out of your day to log in to the game once every month to keep your house alive, you don't really deserve it... would you even be paying for the subscription at that point?

This isn't going to do anything for the average player, people just look at this and think "SQUARE ENIX IS TAKING MY HOUSE AND HARD EARNED GIL AWAY" when in reality I don't think a single person in this thread would ever have to worry about it happening to you.

I suggest they make it so that it is 35 days of inactivity AFTER your subsctiption fee expires. At least for the personal housing this is a very good option, i think. If they travel it's easy to renew the sub online and they wont have to access the game.

The thing is though... one person going on vacation shouldn't matter, so unless you and your entire FC are going on an extended Holiday together, I don't see the problem here.

Please simply delete all charcters have not logon for n days.

Deleting characters is completely different, you have to remember that houses aren't just data like characters, they're actual instances that can be entered. The reason that Square Enix made it so when you log out or change instances while in the house you appear outside the house is because it was too demanding on their servers to keep all the instances loaded when no one was using them.

[Souljacker]

it consists of Myself and my leader Blood. a couple here and theres every week.......i feel that with no return for them taking back the land, i am forced to remain renewed and can never take a break.

I think this is more of a personal problem than an SE problem. If you don't want to play the game anymore, then why do you care what happens to your house? It doesn't depend on YOUR PERSONAL subscription, it just depends on SOMEONE accessing the house once in a rolling 35 days. I just can't drum up a lot of sympathy for the whole "my gil is wasted" position to take on things. ALL gil is wasted. Someday, the servers will be shut down. The house will be gone. The world will move on. None of this is even real.

Instead of the "Woe is me" position that everyone quit - why not add more people to your miniscule fc? You just want the house for you personally and that other guy? What if he wakes up one day, hates you, and kicks you from the FC? It's not like SE is going to give you all your gil back.

We spend gil on things to enjoy, but SE never once guaranteed that those items would persist forever and ever and ever, especially if they aren't being used. If you are gone, your FC is gone, and everyone you ever knew is gone for over a month (and I'd even go so far as to agree with some others in here that maybe 90 days is a better number), then the land should be made available for players actually playing the game.

[Gilthas]

Just to save the lazy people who didn't even read the thread, most of the people against the deletion DO NOT want the houses to remain there, we just want a way for both sides to come out the tunnel without a side being boned completely.

Suggestions were given such as a consolation deed to be transferred to the Company Chest with/without the furnishings. This way, the land will be freed and the absentee FC's members' effort/money/real time will not get wasted.

And instead of just pointing and flaming to those "small FCs", give a suggestion to help them, or better off, to help both sides.

A consolation deed would not work for several reasons:

- what if when they come back the housing wards are full?
- more importantly, who gets the rights for this consolation deed? The leader? What about everyone else in the FC that contributed to the house?

And I'm sure that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Here are suggestions to help them:
- log-in every 34 days so you don't lose your house (obvious one).
- invite new people into your FC.

Inactive chracters occupying the most valuable unique resource - character name.
There are many requests of chnaging character name, name space would be a issue later.

By deleting inactive characters>the FC and the house, there will be no unused house.

Character names have no where near the importance of limited house plots.

[Erudain]

I don't know how many MMORPG everyone here has played, but in absolutely every MMORPG I played (either F2P or P2P) they had this feature, for both guild house and personal houses.

Some games required you to log in and use the house every X time, others required you to pay a maintenance fee every week/month.
If you didn't you lost your house....some games you lost everything, other games your house went on auction and you kept whatever money other player payed for your house.

[Judecca_Penombra]

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Wow, Harsh and slightly rude. Why dont we add more? We try, unfortunately many people already have Free Companies or dont want to work at making a small one bigger, I'm sure this is a large part of why many small FCs stay small, but i'm fine with playing via linkshell communities. We got a House because we wanted to do something nice for our Free Company. The added benefits would be nice too, but as of yet there's been nothing worthwhile other than look at my house, see my trophies, and crafting tables which are pointless if you've hit 50 in a DoH class. Now i played FFXI for years but i wasn't always there, i like the game but sometimes financial things got in the way, I'd have to quit but i came back to it.Hell i just logged in and found someone who hasn't played in probably 8 months just logged back in today to get set for 2.3. I Play the game, i enjoy the game, I still have a sub don't I? Why should my opinion weigh any less than yours?

[Souljacker]

Wow, Harsh and slightly rude. ....Why should my opinion weigh any less than yours?

What's harsh and rude is the sense of entitlement to keep real-time virtual space that is abandoned as if it's some kind of shrine at the EXPENSE of other players who are ACTUALLY PLAYING. So SE decides instead of removing your house after you have abandoned it, they will add more zones for houses. Those get filled and abandoned. They add MORE zones, meanwhile, the lag in the game is getting worse because of everyone in their 2 person free company that decided to buy a house and quit for a year just couldn't live without their house still existing in a virtual world they no longer inhabit.

Their announcement is a step in the right direction. Expand it to 90 days so that people can take a break between patches if that's what they choose, but the houses HAVE to be re-absorbed into the game and recycled if they have been abandoned. The servers need to be able to handle the load for actual gameplay, not peoples' personal monuments to themselves when they no longer even play.