Private rooms and being kicked from an FC

[Wobi]

Just give me MY garden, MY stable and MY room and leave the FC out of it! Personal is personal and not FC business.

Not a team player I see? This is why the world gets worse every day, "me me me" attitude. Don't join just any random FC, get to know the people, set ranks on who can even create a personal room. People should prove themselves to not be a selfish monster/troll before being allowed to participate. They are trying to foster a feeling of community and people working together with a shared purpose of accomplishing group and separate goals, but together as a team.

People also need to quit speculating, I'm certain many of these things will be available when personal housing comes out but don't give up on the community before they have a chance to try and make it happen.

[Ryel]

Not a team player I see? This is why the world gets worse every day, "me me me" attitude. Don't join just any random FC, get to know the people, set ranks on who can even create a personal room. People should prove themselves to not be a selfish monster/troll before being allowed to participate. They are trying to foster a feeling of community and people working together with a shared purpose of accomplishing group and separate goals, but together as a team.

People also need to quit speculating, I'm certain many of these things will be available when personal housing comes out but don't give up on the community before they have a chance to try and make it happen.

Because people never change, or quit the game, or disagree over anything in the history of interactions between more than one person.

I'm sure no-one in this game or any other involving a guild type system has ever had a problem with anyone ever and the FC kick function is a myth that has never has never been used in any FC period.

I agree that being able to set the permission via FC ranks will help with this but simply asking whether or not we'll be able to remove players from an FC after they have bought a room is a very important question

[Teirshin]

I think its pretty much a given that SE hasnt put one ounce of thought into any of these concerns, otherwise they'd of stated the "conditions" around kicking or moving FC's when these private rooms were announced.

So, like most things they rush out the door, they'll notice a problem when the forum explodes and rush to put in a "fix" that will be half-moogled at best and only cause more problems.

- "Ok, so we dont have personal housing up to snuff yet, what can we do in the meantime to appease people?"

- "How about private rooms in the FC houses? We can even charge for it and add another Gil sink to the game that way!"

- "Excellent!!! Are there any concerns with that that may cause problems down the road?"

<crickets chirping>

- "Great! Code it!"


Me? I'm holding out for personal housing. FC's change/evolve/implode far too often for me to risk setting up a nice room only to lose it because someone decides to quit the game or disband the FC or something.

[Souljacker]

Not a team player I see? This is why the world gets worse every day, "me me me" attitude.

You see it as not being a "team player" - I see it as having "personal responsibility".

I have done 100% of the research, experimenting, time, and work in my FC's garden not to mention keeping detailed logs of what we have produced and all transactions. Yet, I would feel EXTREMELY guilty reaping any of the rewards. I put all of it in the bank, because it's the FC's and not really "mine" even though I did the work. If I was gardening in my own room, it would be different. But throw this "company" tag onto it, and it becomes Corporate America: The FFXIV Edition and honestly - I hate it. I really just hate it.

I want to get a personal room and I would *like* for it to be in the FC house because I do love my FC... But I should be able to leave the FC when I want, and the leaders should be able to kick me if they so choose.

SE is REALLY on the wrong side of things with these issues. We need a dev response and some clarification, because this is starting to turn into a pretty terrible feature overall and it was SUPPOSED to be BETTER than guilds in other games.

[TomTom1968]

Not a team player I see? This is why the world gets worse every day, "me me me" attitude. Don't join just any random FC, get to know the people, set ranks on who can even create a personal room. People should prove themselves to not be a selfish monster/troll before being allowed to participate. They are trying to foster a feeling of community and people working together with a shared purpose of accomplishing group and separate goals, but together as a team.

People also need to quit speculating, I'm certain many of these things will be available when personal housing comes out but don't give up on the community before they have a chance to try and make it happen.

Do you know me? Don't think so so please don't make assumptions. I am in a grown FC and know the people there since Release. I also help my FC with crafts, donations, company and advice for new players.

But what has my FC to do with MY choccobo? It's not a groupie serving the FC. I ride it and use it in battle. We have a mid size house and 2 patches for Gardening which are mainly used for experiments and breeding plants from the few in our FC who are interested in it. So after the patch we tell them "go away, we need the room for Choccobo feeding seeds" or what? And we tell half of the FC "Sorry, only enough Food for 50% of the FC because we don't have a big house so our space is limited"? I am all in for FC features that bring people together. But neither is everybody interested in Gardening nor in Choccobo raise. Having to use your Garden space for such things is a weak design on SE's side.

Just like they released Coil before CT and Sight seeing logs before the Weather NPC was introduced, this is yet another example of implementing things in a wrong order.

[Atrious]

Not a team player I see? This is why the world gets worse every day, "me me me" attitude. Don't join just any random FC, get to know the people, set ranks on who can even create a personal room. People should prove themselves to not be a selfish monster/troll before being allowed to participate. They are trying to foster a feeling of community and people working together with a shared purpose of accomplishing group and separate goals, but together as a team.

People also need to quit speculating, I'm certain many of these things will be available when personal housing comes out but don't give up on the community before they have a chance to try and make it happen.

You really missed the point here... LOL