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    In my experience, Warriors make the best main tanks on Turn 5 due to the availability of Inner Beast for every Death Sentence, whereas Paladins' cooldowns may see them lacking towards the later phases, which is why I am surprised to see you say that you've rarely main tanked the fight.

    As the guys have said in previous posts, keep Storms Path up at all times - Alternate between Butchers Block and Storms Path combos, and ensure that you have Inner Beast up for Death Sentence. In the first phase, she will do two Plummets between Death Sentence, so when you receive that second Plummet, hold off on your attacks (providing you have enough Wrath Stacks, if not > Infuriate), and pop Inner Beast as soon as you see the cast bar for Death Sentence. This is how I used to have to do it pre-Echo Buff and it used to work at ~iLvl85.

    One thing I've noticed since 2.2 is that a lot of Tanks also no longer go into the Conflags while they are up. By doing so, you can completely avoid all Death Sentences during this phase if the timings are sync'd up correctly. Healers should be keeping Regen on you and providing you have over 70% HP, I would recommend doing this, as it also gives the Healers a bit of a break. I still do it now, even at iLvl96.

    Once you reach the Twister phase, you will be tanking Twintania while the Paladin OT is on Dreadknight duty with stuns. During this phase she will be doing Twisters as well as Death Sentences, and the best way to avoid Twisters is to run in a circle underneath the middle of her, so that she does not move from her spot, and that you avoid being hit by any melee's Twisters, and that they avoid getting hit by yours. Again, ensure that Storms Path is up at all times, and use Inner Beast for every Death Sentence. Timings can become skewed due to her attacks queuing up behind one another, but you will still always have enough time to build up five stacks of Wrath.

    During the final phase, she will cast two sets of Liquid Hells between Death Sentences, so again you can use the second set of Liquid Hells as your indication of incoming Death Sentences.

    If you are doing everything correctly and following these guidelines throughout all these replies, and still dying, then you need to start questioning your Healers, as they should be doing everything they can with Stoneskins and Adloquiums to help you mitigate Death Sentence. If they are too busy to do this every time, and you have a Paladin OT, ask him to cast Stoneskin on you for each Death Sentence as well.

    As for Garuda XM, unless you are running double Warrior, Paladin is usually the better choice for main tanking due to their more expansive cooldown suite and raw mitigation through Shield Oath. Timings for WW can become skewed depending on DPS, but Garuda and Suparna will often jump before they do it, so if you are main tanking, while they are gone and while avoiding Featherrain, pop a cooldown and hit one of them with Inner Beast as soon as they are targetable again. White Mages should also be putting Stoneskin on you during the time they are gone.

    Hope this helps ^^
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    Last edited by LukeyP666; 06-30-2014 at 05:14 PM.

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    I wish I could help you out. I teach T5 to people all the time.

    She does her first death sentence just after plummet and healing can get very hectic if the OT had a messy pull. Your scholar should be healing you ONLY at this point and ignoring the drama happening with the scourges. They should have adlo up for every DS. Most scholars new to this fight don't know this and try to help the raid out a bit and will lose the tank.

    After the first DS you can start to time them. DS will be cast after every 3rd plummet. You have time to pop CD during the cast but this way you can look like a pro and have your CD up already.

    As far as getting specific drops, don't worry about it until you've downed her. The helm is great but you don't need the acc and the high Allagan drops in T6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeyP666 View Post
    One thing I've noticed since 2.2 is that a lot of Tanks also no longer go into the Conflags while they are up. By doing so, you can completely avoid all Death Sentences during this phase if the timings are sync'd up correctly. Healers should be keeping Regen on you and providing you have over 70% HP, I would recommend doing this, as it also gives the Healers a bit of a break. I still do it now, even at iLvl96.
    Because SE fixed Twins behavior. If tank goes into Conflag, Twintania continues attacking on 2nd in aggro list. Have fun with solo-tank then
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    I solo tank T5 as a Paladin since months, so if u have CD's up and nice healt, is an healer fault to not have precasted/shielded you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Because SE fixed Twins behavior. If tank goes into Conflag, Twintania continues attacking on 2nd in aggro list. Have fun with solo-tank then
    False, they never fixed it, it wasn't a bug. They accidentally modified it and then rollbacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Because SE fixed Twins behavior. If tank goes into Conflag, Twintania continues attacking on 2nd in aggro list. Have fun with solo-tank then
    Do you have the patch notes for that? Never saw this happen.

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    @Topic: You shouldn't have a problem if you use Storm's Path and Inner Beast for every Death Sentence.
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    Last edited by Alphras; 06-30-2014 at 11:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Because SE fixed Twins behavior. If tank goes into Conflag, Twintania continues attacking on 2nd in aggro list. Have fun with solo-tank then
    I've solo-tanked Turn 5 lots of times as well, but never as Warrior, and not for a little while come to think of it. Has that been updated recently? I remember they ninja-patched it in one of the minor patches before 2.2, but then they reverted it back when 2.2 was released and my Static started farming it, as I could still go into conflags even when solo tanking.

    Has that been re-patched then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeyP666 View Post
    I've solo-tanked Turn 5 lots of times as well, but never as Warrior, and not for a little while come to think of it. Has that been updated recently? I remember they ninja-patched it in one of the minor patches before 2.2, but then they reverted it back when 2.2 was released and my Static started farming it, as I could still go into conflags even when solo tanking.

    Has that been re-patched then?
    It was done as an error in 2.2, reverted and never changed again (solo-tanked T5 in the last five days, not seen any change)
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    I main tank T5 a lot and never have any issue with cool down, (especially with 15% echo) you just have to manage your CD and Virus. WAR mt is a bit easier since you can pop IB every DS. also most of the time PLD is OT because chain stun on the dread.
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    Thanks for all the helpful advice. I'm definitely taking it to heart and will apply it to the attempts myself and the new FC make at it. I know it's definitely going to be tough though.
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    looking at your gear and with echo buff in consideration you shouldn't be one shotted with proper cooldowns. It might just be the healers that are screwing up, tank cooldowns alone are not enough for death sentences, you need proper shielding and stoneskin to take in the hit. the same goes for wicked wheel x 2. No amount of cooldown can save you if the healer doesn't shield or immediately heal you up.
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