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    EX/Twin

    These instances really feel like a major roadblock for me. Every time I've tried tanking them, nothing ever goes right. I'm popping CDs, positioning as best as I can, yet it all falls apart so easily.

    I feel like no matter what I do, I'm never going to be able to tank these instances successfully. Tried doing T5 this morning, explaining to the group that the farthest I've gotten is up to the second set of snakes as OT. Group decides to make me MT, and I tell them to not be surprised if I die in 5 mins. Which happens. And they get mad at me. AFTER I told them I've not MT'd T5.

    With Garuda, it's always the difficulty of surviving WW2. I take one hit, I'm at half HP, the second comes and I'm dead. And here I am popping CDs, whatever it takes to survive, yet I still get "one-shotted."

    Not really sure what the point of this post is, I guess I just felt like I needed to vent my frustrations out somewhere.

    As a tank, I feel like my pride of being so is diminishing. It sucks to have major storyline gated behind T5 as well.
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    Something you have to keep in mind with anything more difficult than T4 is that EVERYONE has to pull their weight in order to clear these fights. You cannot sleep through them until you've done them enough times to know the mechanics by heart. Also, the entire group has to agree to run the same strategy. If half of your T5 party is used to running with a single-tank, they're going to do things differently than a party that's used to dual-tanking it, and everyone is going to ruin the run.

    Just looking at your lodestone profile, you do know that the necklace and earrings that you're currently wearing are supposed to be for DPS classes, right? You're missing out on at least 30 points of Vitality, which is a little less than 500 HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeDono View Post
    Just looking at your lodestone profile, you do know that the necklace and earrings that you're currently wearing are supposed to be for DPS classes, right? You're missing out on at least 30 points of Vitality, which is a little less than 500 HP.
    Then what would you suggest for gear when I end up losing enough accuracy that I can't even hit anything if I have to MT T5? I know people cleared Twin before echo buff and i100 was even available, so I'm seriously asking what their gears were.

    Also, completely jelly that you've got the helm. I swear that's the best-looking helm in game. Such a shame that people who do have one don't proudly wear it around/glamour over it. ¬_¬
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider View Post
    Then what would you suggest for gear when I end up losing enough accuracy that I can't even hit anything if I have to MT T5? I know people cleared Twin before echo buff and i100 was even available, so I'm seriously asking what their gears were.

    Also, completely jelly that you've got the helm. I swear that's the best-looking helm in game. Such a shame that people who do have one don't proudly wear it around/glamour over it. ¬_¬
    then you need to get the accessories necessary to tanking with enough accuracy. Farm coils for them or get the Noct ones. those should have been the absolute first thing to upgrade as they do not help you with tanking at all. There is really no way around this as a tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axlle10 View Post
    then you need to get the accessories necessary to tanking with enough accuracy. Farm coils for them or get the Noct ones. those should have been the absolute first thing to upgrade as they do not help you with tanking at all. There is really no way around this as a tank.
    It just seems like an insult to WAR when my PLD is running almost the same gear (with the exception of a shield) and my acc on it is 550.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider View Post
    It just seems like an insult to WAR when my PLD is running almost the same gear (with the exception of a shield) and my acc on it is 550.
    That's because the PLD Relic gives accuracy. WARs got kinda shafted with our Relic. Skill Speed is worthless unless you're building your whole gearset around it. Other options are to try pushing your Relic to Novus and re-specing for acc, or getting one of the alternatives. Unfortunately, the alternatives that give acc are the EX Primal Weapon, the Weathered Weapon (which requires clearing T7) and the Allagan Weapon. But all is not lost...

    Quote Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider View Post
    Then what would you suggest for gear when I end up losing enough accuracy that I can't even hit anything if I have to MT T5?
    The Weathered Noct Earrings give accuracy. With that and the Hero's Necklace of Fending, you should still have more than enough accuracy for T5 and EX Primals. You only need 472 as MT, iirc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider View Post
    Then what would you suggest for gear when I end up losing enough accuracy that I can't even hit anything if I have to MT T5? I know people cleared Twin before echo buff and i100 was even available, so I'm seriously asking what their gears were.

    Also, completely jelly that you've got the helm. I swear that's the best-looking helm in game. Such a shame that people who do have one don't proudly wear it around/glamour over it. ¬_¬

    It's been a while, but if I recall correctly Twintania only needs like 485 accuracy from the front. Even second coil turn 4 is only like 515, but it's hard to actually drop that low. Drop some accuracy.
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    I've also given some thought to my race as well, if that might be affecting my total stats. Not that I'd imagine it to be a big difference, but I used to be a Highlander, now I's an elf.
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    race do not matter. I have tank T9, all ex as lalafel PLD and never have any problem.
    you stat priority should be VIT = acc (till cap). (there some exception when you at avg ilv 105+, but normally VIT and acc come first. aka. hugely over gear the content you want to do) then all that left is to know when to pop you CD and position the boss
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    I should also note that I'm doing these as only Warrior for a very specific reasons:

    I refuse to deny myself a chance at getting the Allagan helm.

    Also, bears.

    So I guess I just have to get better. The sheer difference from T4 to T5 is astounding. Almost feels like T4 should've been T3, with something different for T4 to scale up to leading into T5's difficulty.
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