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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I'm talking specifically about raid content where there's usually just one boss and a few adds now and then, in which context SCH destroys WHM and can keep healing in Cleric Stance to boot. Against a single target, Holy isn't even the highest dps spell; Stone II has a higher potency per second. WHM Holy spam is nice in Brayflox HM but that has never been a meaningful part of endgame, just a fast myth delivery service, and I don't think "Job Balance" with a big B applies there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma621 View Post
    Energy Drain---150 Potency (Recast of 3.00 seconds)
    Stone II--------170 Potency (Cast time of 2.42 seconds)
    Holy------------200 Potency (Cast time of 2.91 seconds)


    What?
    Clearly you've never played scholar OR white mage.

    Bio - 40 pot/tick
    Miasma - 35 pot/tick
    Bio II - 35 pot/tick
    Shadow Flare 25 pot/tick
    Ruin - 80 potency
    Energy Drain - 150 potency

    Scholars max out at 215 potency per GCD with perfect dot application, plus they get up to 3 energy drains per minute, which makes Aetherflow effectively a hybrid dps cooldown with a 60 second recast. If you knew elementary school math, you'd see that Holy is LOWER potency per second than Stone II against a single target and is completely useless in Coil 2. With perfect dot application, white mages top out at 181 potency per GCD, with Fluid Aura giving an extra 150 potency every 30 seconds (which is 33% weaker than 3 energy drains per minute).
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    Last edited by axemtitanium; 07-01-2014 at 12:05 PM.

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    Gamma621's Avatar
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    Gamma Gigantos
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    But you stated you wanted the change because WHM needs more burst damage, when WHM already blows SCH out of the water for burst damage, on single target and AoE.

    Can SCH consistently do more DPS on longer fights? Yes
    Can WHM add more burst DPS when something needs to die fast? Yes

    This is the trade-off, and why no balance change is needed.

    Edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    Clearly you've never played scholar OR white mage.

    Bio - 40 pot/tick
    Miasma - 35 pot/tick
    Bio II - 35 pot/tick
    Shadow Flare 25 pot/tick
    Ruin - 80 potency
    Energy Drain - 150 potency

    Scholars max out at 215 potency per GCD with perfect dot application, plus they get up to 3 energy drains per minute, which makes Aetherflow effectively a hybrid dps cooldown with a 60 second recast. If you knew elementary school math, you'd see that Holy is LOWER potency per second than Stone II against a single target and is completely useless in Coil 2. With perfect dot application, white mages top out at 181 potency per GCD, with Fluid Aura giving an extra 150 potency every 30 seconds (which is 33% weaker than 3 energy drains per minute).
    Funny, because I main BOTH WHM and SCH, which you would see if you even bothered to look at my main class that is directly under my name.

    Also it's a good thing those DoTs always get used to full potential. It's not like when burst damage is actually needed, the target is usually dead before you even finish your DoT rotation. So go ahead and try to outburst a WHM and let me know how that goes.
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    Last edited by Gamma621; 07-01-2014 at 12:19 PM.