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  1. #21
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    Holland's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa ^^
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    Holland Stark
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 24
    Ive already set up shop in LL, and selling pretty well I might say. Thought I would see the items rot for days, sold them in just two days. And thats seeing LL is empty most of the time.
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  2. #22
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    you can go to the summon bell in every city.
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  3. #23
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    Noctura's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Aquadine Dream
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I won't even sell anything and quit playing the game because of the market wards for a while... I hate the market ward system with a passion... and I would jump in the air and celebrate to no end if they ever did away with it. It's an absolute bother to do everything... it's way too time consuming to get anything done and I keep retainers up for repairs for weeks no matter how high the reward is. I can't find anything, even with the search counters. The wards are all full and yet I can't get a single piece of gear my level no matter what server I tried or town.... and no one else can start selling this stuff I need because.... there is no more room to put retainers, and bazaar searching for 4 hours really isn't something I want to do with my game time.
    I waste all my anima every day going to all the towns to see if there is anything decent for sale as far as... ANYTHING... for my lvl and there isn't. I don't have any motivation to advance, or make money, and I am having absolute hell with crashes every time I go into a ward when 70 retainers pop up around me.... this is the only time I ever crash in the game...
    Why is the menders ward full of nothing but people that don't even need repairs?? Why are you even allowed to have anything in there besides the materials you need for your repair and the item you want repaired?

    It's awful... and I think that if they wanted to keep those instances ... turn them ALL into repair wards (I could sure use some repairs...) and put an AH (Auction House) counter inside for the rest of the items since the search counter is already up anyway.... as well as combine the 3 markets for the AH so there wouldn't be such a huge waste of anima. They could even make the AH counter where the persons retainer comes up to show the item you want. Instead of finding one thing, zone ..finding something else you need...zone... forgot an item ...zone ... Total crash fest. Waste of my game time. :< Just let the retainer come to the AH counter to sell the item... and maybe wave at you to make it more fun

    Idk this is just my opinion and I am sure many people do well with this system.... but I won't be going near it without a huge sense of dread... and even knowing I have to go to the market wards makes me want to log off and just deal with it later. It's more of a chore to me then farming.

    I really like the game a lot and have been playing it since CB, but I keep remaking my character to see if any of the wards are getting any better on different servers. I really hope the system is removed or revised. They have great ideas but this one needed more work.

    /sigh

    I apologize for the rant. Still love the game, can't wait for the patches. (I will not be deleting my character anymore this time. Chose a permanent server.) I just look forward to the day when they fix the market wards... if they do. :<
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  4. #24
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    Delsus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah, where else?
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    The wards arent broken because the uldah wards are always full the reason is because SE didnt foresee every one crowding to uldah, SE wanted us to do leves in all cities and move around them which would make selling in grid and LL viable. If that had happened we wouldnt have this problem now.

    As I say its not the system thats broken its the playerbase for congregaing in uldah rather than spreading out because we are playing in a way SE didnt foresee.

    Also if you check all Yoshi-P's letters you will know what they are doing to fix the problem of full wards, and they want to move people to the other cities which will make selling in LL and grid more beneficial.

    So before saying somthing needs to be done you should really keep up to date with the letters from the producer and maybe summon your retainer in LL or grid till 1.18 rather than saying somthing needs to be fixed as if it has never been mentioned by SE
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  5. #25
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    Schneizel Alstreim
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    As I say its not the system thats broken its the playerbase for congregaing in uldah rather than spreading out because we are playing in a way SE didnt foresee.
    Silence! That is incorrect! The players fault? MADNESS

    I agree 100%, it's not the MW or SE fault. If people who sell really wanted to make a difference they would set up their retainer in LL or Gridania.

    The MW might not be the best solution, but the concept would work if poeple didn't concentrate that much in Ul'dah.
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  6. #26
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Do ppl who told the others to set up retainers in Gridania or LL living in those ghost towns themselves?
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  7. #27
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    Delsus's Avatar
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Do ppl who told the others to set up retainers in Gridania or LL living in those ghost towns themselves?
    The players messed it up by only using uldah, there is somthing wrong with people who think its SEs fault, the players made LL and grid ghost towns not SE, why do you think you get extra reward for trading leves to a differant adventurers guild, SE didnt forsee people exploiting BW leves, they made it so you can get leves back because of the design flaw where you fail if you DC not so people can abandon them to keep em next reset
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizlu View Post
    Silence! That is incorrect! The players fault? MADNESS

    I agree 100%, it's not the MW or SE fault. If people who sell really wanted to make a difference they would set up their retainer in LL or Gridania.

    The MW might not be the best solution, but the concept would work if poeple didn't concentrate that much in Ul'dah.
    SE should have made it massively convenient to travel from city to city then. a game developer has to understand how their playerbase works if they want to manipulate them. they obviously dont know how their playerbase works when it comes to traveling and the economy..... my evidence? everyones at Uldah because of its convenience and filling up rooms with zombies.
    if there was an auction house, there wouldnt be so many limitaions.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  9. #29
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    SE should have made it massively convenient to travel from city to city then. a game developer has to understand how their playerbase works if they want to manipulate them. they obviously dont know how their playerbase works when it comes to traveling and the economy..... my evidence? everyones at Uldah because of its convenience and filling up rooms with zombies.
    if there was an auction house, there wouldnt be so many limitaions.
    its not the conviniance its because its expected that everyone exploits BW leves, which will be changing. and another reason which is to do with conviniance is the main scenario quests, but thats only till your first r46, if you do them right away.

    So the only long term reason is for BW leves, which will be nerfed in 1.18 conviniance has little to do with ppl congrigating in uldah.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    The players messed it up by only using uldah, there is somthing wrong with people who think its SEs fault, the players made LL and grid ghost towns not SE, why do you think you get extra reward for trading leves to a differant adventurers guild, SE didnt forsee people exploiting BW leves, they made it so you can get leves back because of the design flaw where you fail if you DC not so people can abandon them to keep em next reset
    Christ, you sound like a battered spouse. "It's my fault. Sorry."

    Everyone gathers in Ul'Dah because it's the center of the world. If everyone would rather gather there instead of the other towns, then it's S-E who is at fault for designing one town that is clearly superior to the others, not the other way around. Players shouldn't be at a disadvantage for choosing to be in other towns.
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