Dear SE, Yoshi, etc, remove Coil lock outs. Right now.

[Brainberry]

Got my weap on my 5th down, no single wins here, Mr Weathered.

And even if I didnt get the drop I was 100% satisfied for the T8 weap since its more than enough to get the job done. RNG is a terrible excuse since the turns reward you with guaranteed gear through sands and oil. You will always be rewarded if you actually put work in, no luck needed.

[Ryel]

Got my weap on my 5th down, no single wins here, Mr Weathered.

And even if I didnt get the drop I was 100% satisfied for the T8 weap since its more than enough to get the job done. RNG is a terrible excuse since the turns reward you with guaranteed gear through sands and oil. You will always be rewarded if you actually put work in, no luck needed.

Looks like i hit a nerve there

I'm sure i don't have to tell you that the group you're in isn't the only group doing coil, and while you personally may have gotten your weapon on the 5th drop there are many other groups who have yet to see certain pieces drop at all.

With the various ways being added for Unidentified Allagan Tomestones, Sands of Time, and Oils of Time to be acquired outside of coil, they don't really serve the purpose of your argument anymore.

I'm more curious as to why anyone would care about more flexibility and the ability of others to enjoy the game as if it actually has any affect on them, It doesn't stop you from running coil as you have been and it doesn't devalue the efforts of those who are actively completing it.

Sure people will sell runs, so what?

If it bothers people so much then don't run with people who buy wins, i know i sure won't.

There honestly isn't enough hardcore content in this game for the mentality that people are trying to toss around on this issue, this isn't ground kings or HNMs from back in the day. It's few 8 man raids that have most people who are completing them logging in for 1 - 2 days to farm them and then logging off until reset, while an even larger number of people are leaving the game over it.

[Brainberry]

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Practice some patience, you will get your way as soon as they release more content. My point was if you were clearing at least t6-8 you wouldn't be as frustrated as you are now since there's still ways to itemize and gear through guaranteed upgrade items. I hope the new methods, such as CT and hunts can keep you guys satisfied until new content comes out and they open up SCOB like they did with the first turns.

[BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY]

With the various ways being added for Unidentified Allagan Tomestones, Sands of Time, and Oils of Time to be acquired outside of coil, they don't really serve the purpose of your argument anymore.

SE hasn't mentioned being able to acquire Unidentified Allagan Tomestones from any source other then C2T2.

The only workaround to playing with FC members who already have their downs for the week is alt's.

A couple people from my static are helping other people in our FC on their alts with their clears after they're done with ours.

players with an Entry level subscription can't do this.

[rex1976]

SE hasn't mentioned being able to acquire Unidentified Allagan Tomestones from any source other then C2T2.






players with an Entry level subscription can't do this.

sands/oils will be available from hunt

[blowfin]

Dude: I would like to participate with my other jobs even after having cleared the content.
Yoshida: Do you mean as a helper?
In that instance, my worry is the breaking down of the hierachy when players who are unable to clear content overly rely on those who can and begin getting powerful items. Though I also understand that this concern is purely from a management and development point of view. This is a hard question to answer and is why we've decided to nerf contents incrementally.
TLDR, if we remove lock outs, people will get carried. We don't want that.

Terrible reasoning. This basically boils down to "We don't want to give you the chance to help your friends because our gating is working very effectively at holding them back. They might actually get some loot if we change the lockout! We can't have that happening!"

Aside from how obviously detrimental this is to building a solid community, It's basically a layer of gating on top of something that's already heavily gated. Heard you like gating? Well we've gated the gates for you. Unfortunately SE's morbid fear of people actually accomplishing things in game comes before us players having reasonable access to content we've paid for.

As it turns out that strategy isn't that effective either, people are frustrated with coil to the point where they've either stopped running it, or have quit the game altogether. The lockout needs a major rethink so SE can start putting the MMO back into this RPG.