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  1. #31
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    As I'm currently working on my own Novus (Just finished Animus so I am now researching this part), I'm heavily leaning on the defensive/tank stats: Acc and Parry.

    As many have noted, you have a wider selection of gear that can offset any deficiencies that you do by putting ACC/Parry on the weapon. It'll be your second best until High Allagan so make it a tanking weapon and roll with the punches until you get said High Allagan weapon.

    Could always mimic the High Allagan's stats (Albeit it'll always have higher secondary stats and lower primary stats due to the ilvl and point distribution the High Allagan has), and center your gear towards reaching the two defensive stats first and then dump into crit and det once they get there...

    There are interesting possibilities; as I will probably never see the second tier of coil due to simply not pushing myself towards doing them, my weapon will be a bit more flexible stat wise if I want it to be. For you? Prioritize the defensive side by getting to adequate parry/acc with the weapon. Then, boost your secondary stats (str, crit, det) with accessories and whatnot.

    G'luck in choosing!
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  2. #32
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    Lucille Wallace
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    Hello, everyone! Necro-posting here! Today I finished my Curtana Novus. Thanks everybody for your replies!



    As Kreninan suggested (I actually thought the same), I emulated the High Allagan stats but I replaced critical with parry. Why? 'cause I'm a tank. Yes. But, besides that, I only melded 23 of acc, because I'm aiming to this bis gear:

    http://www.ffxivguild.com/ffxiv-pala...me-gear-guide/

    Even though I have my Noct Shield, I'm aiming to get the High Allagan Shield, which doesn't haven accuracy at all. I'll upgrade the Holy Shield as well, but I'll do that one veeeery slooooowly... thankfully, I can replace my stats in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    Hello, everyone! Necro-posting here! Today I finished my Curtana Novus. Thanks everybody for your replies!

    Grats Cyrus! 288 runs left myself ! Quick questions. What made you only do +30 parry? Did you want to save having to meld that last BattleDance IV? Or was it that you prefered to have +1 ACC vs +1 Parry?

    I personally went with +31 parry due to wanting to achive 600+ parry. Every point is needed depending on your race. I will end up with 603 parry after obtaining all the neccessary gear pieces in Coil2.

    Also could you make your gearset using Ariyala's calculator? I cant open that link due to work restrictions

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    Snip!
    Hello and thank you! <3 And for your questions!

    What made you only do +30 parry? Did you want to save having to meld that last BattleDance IV?
    For two main reasons. First: 23 of acc is the same acc than the High Allagan blade. That will probably be my last piece to get. Second: Yes, saving some money there. Up to 23 accuracy I still need 5k T3 Acc materia, while the T4 Parry materia is above the 50k. Even if it's not expensive, I'm saving all the gil I can.

    I personally went with +31 parry due to wanting to achive 600+ parry. Every point is needed depending on your race. I will end up with 603 parry after obtaining all the neccessary gear pieces in Coil2.
    To be honest, I didn't know there was a cap for parry. Didn't know either that 600 was an important number for it! I'm currently sitting on 550 parry. With the bis gear listed on that link. Lemme screenshot it for ya:



    I'll be having 516 acc and 563 parry. If I still have the Novus when I get all the previous gear, I'll have the apparently godly 600 of parry stat! I'm keeping the acc to the limit, so I can get some parry/critical hit sub-stats.

    Also could you make your gearset using Ariyala's calculator? I cant open that link due to work restrictions
    Well, that guy calculated it for me. I analized it and it makes a lot of sense. It priorizes not only parry but critical hit as I stated before. It has your accuracy to the current cap, so there's no a waste of acc anywhere.
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    Hello, I have yet to decide what to do. Determination is usually well valued, items of the same level have usually less determination than other stats, so it seems having DET for the same "price" as other stats is good. DET caps at 31 (shield+sword.)

    One thought is that the Curtana Animus has 29 ACC and 20 Parry so if you put less than that, you'll lose that stat relative to the Animus, but you gain in other of your choice. Same with 8 Skill Speed and 12 Parry the Holy Shield Animus has.

    Adding the secondary stats of Animus Sword and Shield it's 49 sword, 20 shield, 69 total.

    So really we have only 6 points more than the Animus, with the possibility to reassign secondary stats.

    I wouldn't like to lose accuracy or parry relative to the Animus, so 29 Accuracy and 32 Parry between shield and sword at least. This is 61 points.

    It leaves 14 free points. I think some determination is worth it, and maybe add some accuracy and parry?

    If you put more different stats, the materias will also be cheaper, that's something to take into account too.
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    Last edited by JonBigwood; 06-24-2014 at 08:08 PM.

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    31 Parry (11x Ier, 11x IIer, 10x IIIer) max. Cap 44
    22 Det (8x I, 8x II, 8x III) max Cap 31
    22 Acc (11x Ier, 11x IIer) max Cap 44

    No Money wasted for IV Materia
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    A wise man once said "If you don't invest in yourself, nobody will invest in you"

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    You mean my idea is shit?
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBOUND View Post
    A wise man once said "If you don't invest in yourself, nobody will invest in you"
    Quote Originally Posted by Matanzas View Post
    You mean my idea is shit?
    No i didnt mean to imply that. I just find it funny how lately people run from Tier IV materia to "Save Money" when we essentially have nothing to spend our gil on in this game (Asside from Housing, Vanity items, Mounts etc). People actually complained about not having anything to spend their hard earned gil on which would actually improve their battle/PVE experience.

    Now SE gives us what we wanted and implements a Relic Quest-line which requires a gil investment for essentially the most important piece of equipement in the game (Future-proofing) for each class.

    Instead of investing their hard earned gil on the Materia that acutally matters (Tier IV), they come up with sub-par alternatives to save gil. Essentially a "NOVUS on a Budget"

    Now i'm well aware that some classes actually benefit from min/maxing their melds (BLM - PIE,SS,DET) but in most cases its just people trying to save a buck, ignoring their strongest secondary stats.

    Invest in yourself. Weather ur prioritize DET/CRIT/Parry thats your choice. But go all in. None of this Half-stepping. :P
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    Last edited by PROBOUND; 06-27-2014 at 02:50 AM.

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    Your right...but I have only 1 Million...

    But know I will go on max. Acc44 / Parry31

    Acc is needed in coming content. Dont want to have not enough acc...
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