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  1. #11
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    ApolloGenX's Avatar
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    Debuffs worked on EQ bosses... even if a partial slow...why make useless mechanics to clog up hot bars if stuff will just be immune?
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    OP This has been in so many games that I'm sure the only reasons status spells even exist nowadays are ether because of gimmicks or the grandfather clause. If this keeps up they might be even be phased out of RPGs (and MMOs by extension) entirely.

    FFXIV is but one of many cases that use it and it's not even that bad (at least with the DoT status effects, as well as the possibility of statuses being used as a boss mechanic itself) but in general ailments are only there becuase its expected of the genre, whether of not they would actually be useful is another story

    at last to my (limited) experience it's limited to bosses
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 06-26-2014 at 06:54 AM.

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    Chief Currahee
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    The twelve forbid we use the tools given to us to tactically and strategically to overcome our enemies. I mean when was the last time you saw a Drg use "Feint" to slow down a mobs attack, when was the last time a PLD was able to stun a devastating move during a boss encounter?

    It's all a DPS race and dodge dance... plain and simple.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidvideo View Post
    Bring back the elemental wheel or riot (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
    Highlevel bosses would have a high element resistances. Or would be element neutral.
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    Rori Uguu
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    Same reason why One Ilm Punch is only useful for the very few enemies that use Stoneskin and is pretty much a waste of a skill outside PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    Debuffs worked on EQ bosses... even if a partial slow...why make useless mechanics to clog up hot bars if stuff will just be immune?
    Some work, some don't. The general rule in MMOs is - if a debuff will negate a boss ability or incapacitate them in some way, it will not work. The only exception usually being interrupts that have no ongoing effects. The idea behind this is that player abilities should not trivialise a boss fight in any way.
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    Having an opinion does not make you right or wrong, it simply means you have an opinion. Don't get irritated when people don't agree.

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    Well, most of alterations still work, even in coil (except of course stuff like pacification, which make sense) but things like stuns, knockback and silence are even key alterations in these kind of fights (like silence on T9's blue golem and knockback on red golem).

    But eitherway, this kind of complaint doesnt make much sense. What if you could land your 6s long stun on Rafflesia, preventing bouquets and acidic rains, canceling Melusine's voices, shriek and petrifactions, Avatar's brainjack and allagan field, or even Nael's meteors, heavensfall and dynamo? Endgame would lost most of its interest.

    On a sidenote, outside of raid and trials, mostly every alterations works.
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  8. #18
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    Doki Waku
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    I mean when I see a a boss use Voice or Shriek, it's really annoying to not be able to silence it...at least every once in a while.
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    Having key attacks be uninteruptable is one thing. Making the status effects themselves useless even outside those key situations is a tad anoying I agree.
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    the game would be too easy if you can just disable/interrupt anything
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