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  1. #61
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    Momo_Sugitomo's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Momo Sugitomo
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Ehhh, the whole cleric stance thing used to bother me, but now I just remind the healer, then continue on. I can't complain if I'm alive, even if my HP isn't high.
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  2. #62
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    Seryl199's Avatar
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    Delferia Seule
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Sometimes on low level roulettes I'll intentionally heal with cleric stance on, especially if my heals are spiking hate in my direction with a less experienced tank. Heals are so massive in early dungeons anyways that it's hardly a big deal. Most of the time I realize right away if I forgot cleric stance because I know about how much I heal for. Learning to stance dance, though, definitely had some embarrassing fumbles along the way. Happens to all of us.
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  3. #63
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    Wadoka's Avatar
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    Eilis Tozet
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 52
    As was said, it depends on the specific situation. If the healer knows the fight, and knows a Tank with 50% health still has a metric tonne of health, and nothing capable of one-shotting the Tank is currently due up in the fight rotation, then things are still fairly easy to manage stance-wise.

    Compulsive need to keep the Tanks topped off, can be bad resource management, situation-dependent.
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  4. #64
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    Razzle's Avatar
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    Razu Erisu
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by shrek View Post
    reason why the cleric stance still on is because:
    1. Trying to turn it off but fail because press/click it while casting spell.
    2. Click it twice to turn it off that make it lock Cleric stance for 5sec until can turn it off again.
    5. Lag and can't turn it off.
    So much this ( > . >

    1 often leads to 2, since it makes me spam the key to turn it off. Very bad design...
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  5. #65
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    AldoVonAlexandros's Avatar
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    if we heal on CS sometimes is because we know what we r doing, even if your hp is droping, but its cool when we are reminded, i just say "I know"
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  6. #66
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    Lukha's Avatar
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Yeeaaah, usually, if I have Cleric Stance on, it's for a reason; yes, even if I'm letting the tank's HP get low. But if it looks like I don't realize what I'm doing, I don't mind a polite reminder. Everyone messes up sometimes!

    On the other hand, don't be a jerk about it. My policy for Duty Finder runs is 'he who whines about heals, gets no heals'.
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  7. #67
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45 View Post
    Its called Crusader's Stance in the Japanese version. Makes a little bit more sense.
    In german it is penance preacher (Bußprediger)
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  8. #68
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    With things like this (cleric's stance, shield oath, defiance, etc), I'll normally just mention it once in chat, and then leave it alone after that. If all hell breaks loose and we have a wipe, then I'll bring it up again, but I generally don't find it's worth bringing up repeatedly as people tend to take offense and get pissy. Not saying you're wrong in the least bit, I just don't find it's worth it personally.
    I play both PLD and WHM and welcome folks mentioning if I forgot to turn on shield oath (after a wipe, when tank swapping, or after job switching typically) or turn off clerics (usually because it didn't take due to GCD).

    Was healing a CM yesterday with another WHM 'healer,
    ' who spent the whole run in clerics spamming holy. After a fight where a few died I mentioned the stance and lack of healing assistance. No reply but nothing changed. So I just figured I was solo healing and put at the bottom of my list keeping alive our squishiest and weakest dpser, the other WHM. She did die a few times as her self heals in clerics just weren't all that strong, lol.
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    Last edited by Zakalwe; 06-23-2014 at 12:26 AM.
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  9. #69
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    I think I had it worse... I main healer, and I've been raising my tank lately (helps me learn what to do and not do as a healer I think, along with how tanks are doing things. Makes me feel like I can learn my Job a bit better) anyways, I was talking haukke normal and the healer, a whm, instead of using cleric stance and dots, was sitting up on the mob using auto attack while trying to heal me. And I'm like "umm it's kinda dangerous for you to be that close" and I got "I'm doing damage, no reason to not be close" then he proceeded to die at the bottom of the stairs after the first boss from standing next to me. Came back and kept doing it the entire dungeon outside the last boss. Managed to atleast get him to stand behind them but seriously? I main healer... I wanted to snap at him soooo bad.. But I didn't. End of the run I just said "... Good luck."
    He was probably standing where he was because he was lazy and had you on follow. I had that happen once in copper hm. Ended up having to kick the sch after a while, as eos alone and sch standing in boss aoes wasn't working, and sch refused to either take off follow or assist eos. She said this was her sch playing style and no one had the right to tell her how to play her job.
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    Last edited by Zakalwe; 06-23-2014 at 12:20 AM.
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  10. #70
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    RaquelleAvarosa's Avatar
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    Raquelle Rosalia
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakalwe View Post
    He was probably standing where he was because he was lazy and had you on follow. I had that happen once in copper hm. Ended up having to kick the sch after a while, as eos alone and sch standing in boss aoes wasn't working, and sch refused to either take off follow or assist eos. She said this was her sch playing style and no one had the right to tell her how to play her job.
    Disgrace to scholars!!
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