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  1. #151
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    Themis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by jacobvalladares View Post
    true but why must we all suffer for the few who haven't quite familiarized themselves with their job when they could make content that is a long story based challenge that would encourage players to get off their bums and try to be better to attain your relic atma rather than mindless grinding where they learn nothing and still get rewarded for it when the players who give a flying ferret about the game and their job req's still sit waiting for even 1 atma
    I expect that those players who do care are working on getting High Allagan weapons, which are the best weapons. On their way, they may also pick up the Weathered/Upgraded weapons (Novus is better due to the flexibility, but they are hardly needed to beat T9).

    The Atma farming lets those who don't have the ability or desire to push into hard content to still get something decent and keep up to date for when future content comes out. They can do this over the stretch of the 6 months before something newer comes out - and even then, they may still not care to push into that content but they still have something to work towards. There are players in this game, y'know, who really couldn't care about doing Second Coil, but just enjoy the game anyway. The Novus path is ideal for them (out of the content available).
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  2. #152
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    Karnyboy's Avatar
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    Sigmund Felsword
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    I expect that those players who do care are working on getting High Allagan weapons, which are the best weapons. On their way, they may also pick up the Weathered/Upgraded weapons (Novus is better due to the flexibility, but they are hardly needed to beat T9).

    The Atma farming lets those who don't have the ability or desire to push into hard content to still get something decent and keep up to date for when future content comes out. They can do this over the stretch of the 6 months before something newer comes out - and even then, they may still not care to push into that content but they still have something to work towards. There are players in this game, y'know, who really couldn't care about doing Second Coil, but just enjoy the game anyway. The Novus path is ideal for them (out of the content available).
    I am that person. I could care less about coil, I am currently on Book 2 for Atma, I see no problems with the quest line as a whole. It's meant to be eating up your time at a leisurely pace. Not sure why it has fallen on deaf ear (or blind eyes) that you are not supposed to go in to the Atma quest line and expect 1 day results.
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  3. #153
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    Riardon's Avatar
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    Leowald Chestwood
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    Twintania
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    It was always luck but people never believe in luck. They always think there is some weird sinister undercovered secret plan behind their monitors. In all mmos I've played when something is based on RNG ppl always come out and say weird things like go to the X place, farm at the X hour, wear blue pants to increase the drop rate, farm with your character naked for better chances and BS like that. Always. RNG is an acronym for Random Number Generator. It's pure luck guys move on. You can get your atma at 1st fate you complete or it can take 2 days of extreme farming like happened to me for 1 atma. It's luck.
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  4. #154
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    Zarzak's Avatar
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kiotsukete View Post
    Yeeah, I guess if they apparently only intend one Animus per player they surely succeeded with me ._.; oh well
    The Myth is the only problem here IMO. Sure the Atma are tedious but the myth is just ridiculous.
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  5. #155
    Player Scootaloo's Avatar
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    Scootaloo Dash
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    But rng is unfair and we all know it is. It isn't a boss mechanic we can observe and learn from it. The fate of our atmas solely rely on the game itself and not us.
    The game can just screw someone over and decide to just "never" allow them to get any drops because it just chooses to do so, it's very possible because it's rng.
    (For uninformed, this is Pinkie Pie, QUEEN OF RANDOM)
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  6. #156
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    swordrain's Avatar
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    Yaaris Rowe
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    Not sure why it has fallen on deaf ear (or blind eyes) that you are not supposed to go in to the Atma quest line and expect 1 day results.
    Or 120th day results
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  7. #157
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    Gaddes's Avatar
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    Gaddes Ronfaure
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    The Myth is the only problem here IMO. Sure the Atma are tedious but the myth is just ridiculous.
    I have an abundant supply of myth by doing hunts consistently. Got my Novus bow that way and am currently going through a Novus shield now. With hunts I can get enough myth in less than a day for two alexandrites (800 x2) plus the daily alex map, which ain't too shabby.

    The RNG for the Atma part is complete BS though... I went through that for TWO Animus weapons, so I think that's my masochistic limit on that.
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    "Well, it's no Vana'diel, but it'll have to do..."


  8. #158
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    TheMax1087's Avatar
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    Maximillion Xameht
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaddes View Post
    I have an abundant supply of myth by doing hunts consistently. Got my Novus bow that way and am currently going through a Novus shield now. With hunts I can get enough myth in less than a day for two alexandrites (800 x2) plus the daily alex map, which ain't too shabby.

    The RNG for the Atma part is complete BS though... I went through that for TWO Animus weapons, so I think that's my masochistic limit on that.
    The post you replied to is from 2 months ago pre-hunts...
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  9. #159
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    Gaddes's Avatar
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    Gaddes Ronfaure
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Hm didn't notice the necro-bump. Anyway, point still stands that the process is at least less crappy after the Atmas have been attained.
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    "Well, it's no Vana'diel, but it'll have to do..."


  10. #160
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
    I am that person. I could care less about coil, I am currently on Book 2 for Atma, I see no problems with the quest line as a whole. It's meant to be eating up your time at a leisurely pace. Not sure why it has fallen on deaf ear (or blind eyes) that you are not supposed to go in to the Atma quest line and expect 1 day results.
    Yes, but some people do get 1 day results. Some people get 1 week results.

    Some people are lucky to get results over the course of several months
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    There should be a cap on the total number of FATES you participate in before it's a guaranteed drop. There should not be reports of the lengths of time some people have spent working on this branch of the questline.


    edit - I didn't see it was a huge necro either. Part of that probably has to do with the fact that the issue is still relevant.
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