1% or less drop rates and how they hurt the game

[NinjaTaru72]

I laugh at ffxiv drop rates.

Go play original phantasy star online and put thousands of hours into it. (addicting game for its time, still good todsy)

Then come back and enjoy things here. Lol

Weapon drops that were 1/50,000

Or worse, some were from rare mobs, so the rare mob had a 1/5000 change to spawn, then it's best drop would be like 1/200,000 and xrazy shit like that. And one who put good time into production knows what I'm talking about lol. Although yes it can be annoying from time to time, it's not bad.

[Gormogon]

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Just because drop rates were worse somewhere else doesn't make the drop rates here any better.

I'm glad no one has to deal with .05% or .02% drop rates.

[NinjaTaru72]

Just because drop rates were worse somewhere else doesn't make the drop rates here any better.

I'm glad no one has to deal with .05% or .02% drop rates.

Well, it's a matter of opinion, from both ends, so to me it is better. I'm not put off by drop rates nor do I have a problem with them. If you do, that's fine it's your thing. But to me, it's a lot better, and I'll gladly continue to deal with it.

[OSUBuckeye4]

I laugh at ffxiv drop rates.

Go play original phantasy star online and put thousands of hours into it. (addicting game for its time, still good todsy)

Then come back and enjoy things here. Lol

Weapon drops that were 1/50,000

Or worse, some were from rare mobs, so the rare mob had a 1/5000 change to spawn, then it's best drop would be like 1/200,000 and xrazy shit like that. And one who put good time into production knows what I'm talking about lol. Although yes it can be annoying from time to time, it's not bad.

Oh I remember that, I stopped playing as soon as I hit that wall (saw someone with some badass gear, asked how they got it and they explained the drop chances) and never returned.

Which is probably what a lot of FF14 players are doing as we speak.

[AmyNeudaiz]

Which is probably what a lot of FF14 players are doing as we speak.

It's always especially disheartening to watch people quit over something you yourself want changed. I've seen lots of people quit and it's making me lose faith in the devs choices.

[Xairos]

I started a forum thread offering the idea of using EXP accrued post 50 (or post cap) on things like Atma, Mirror, Gear thats on the general discussion. Refined into something like spendable Paragon Levels (from Diablo 3). I think that if we could do any of the game's content and work towards most of the Casual-esque goals then many players would be happier with playing.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...P-into-endgame

[Pachisu89]

Just one more QQ'er over rare drop, get over it! It's a MMO and we need rare drop or wtf is the point in playing an MMO in the 1st place!!!!!!

[Ramzal]

Just one more QQ'er over rare drop, get over it! It's a MMO and we need rare drop or wtf is the point in playing an MMO in the 1st place!!!!!!

Because not every MMO has to have the same system/mechanics/ideas behind them and changing how things work for the better is how you set yourself apart from the others.

[skho01]

Yeah, I would wholeheartedly disagree with you on this. All I can really say is: Welcome to the world of MMOs, where rare items are usually rare and grinds are aplenty. There is also content meant for the more "casual" crowd and other things for people who are a bit more skilled at playing. That's just the way it is. :P

I wholeheartedly disagree with your disagreement. Each of the weapons and weapon upgrades are supposed to be progression for casuals. Yet they're locking that behind pure rng.

[skaterger]

Because not every MMO has to have the same system/mechanics/ideas behind them and changing how things work for the better is how you set yourself apart from the others.

I so look forward to the day when I walk around town and see 10 other summoners wearing the exact same gear I am wearing. So fun!

Glamour lol

You can only glamour what you acquired yes? If there is nothing rare to be acquired, there is no point to glamour in the first place.

That depends on what you see glamour as. A way to show off achieved gear, or a way to make your character look in a way you like.

While the first may also include the second reason, the second definitely doesn't need the first.

As much as some would like to deny it, there is a little bit of both. Back in vanilla wow where purples actually meant something, there was some sort of prestige attached to players with epic or legendary gear. For many players, that was the motivation to keep playing, or to get better, or both to achieve the same as that player. I think that anyone that denies that MMOs are devoid of any competitiveness are delusional. From tiered raids to pvp to dps meters (in other games), I think it is painfully obvious that this concept is prevalent in this genre.

Its a simple concept - carrot on a stick, nothing complicated about it. I'll be the first to admit hanging the carrot on an rng stick is not the best way to do things but the fact is that no matter the stance SE takes, its going to upset some people and potentially cause them to leave. I find the balance to be pretty decent, the amount of rng that is thrown at players is much less than some other games out there.

Ah, so you just suffer from special snowflake syndrome and you don't want others to be able to get what you lucked out on. Good job destroying any credibility you have in this conversation.

Ah I expected someone would say that. Not surprised it would be you, when you can't even comprehend the simple definition of optional.