Support Yoshi-P's efforts to bring XIV to as many platforms as possible. :)

[Delmontyb]

I don't really understand the point of this thread... the WiiU could NEVER run the game as it's weaker than the PS3 and the PS3 is already running at its limit. The XBoxOne will never run the game because M$ insist the game be isolated behind their Live service which means isolated servers and an additional Live subscription fee to play it. YoshiP has already said he has no intention of porting it to XBox for that very reason.

Yoshio-P wants to bring the game to the X1 as he has said multiple times, however he won't split the player base, which I think we all fully support. The point of this thread is to bring attention to some ways we can voice our support of Yoshi-P to Microsoft.

Also, the Wii-U is more powerful then the PS3, but its no where near that of the PS4 and X1.

[Seif]

Wii U port would be great because of the controls but please people stop begging for X1 port.

SE has stated several times that Microsoft will not allow for the sub plan to bypass the gold requirement and there's not going to be anything that can be done about that.
Also a multiplatform title has a very specific set of rules the release process must follow that XIV:ARR at this time has already irreversibly failed at by for example releasing the product on PC and ps3+4.

If you want ARR on X1 go send letters to Microsoft about it. This is absolutely not the place where port begging for it will do any good.

[Gilraen]

Yoshida has said something to the effect of dropping PS3 support after the first expansion IF player support for the PS3 dwindles enough to justify it, just like XI with the PS2 (which is still whole-heartedly supported in Japan for the very reason that players still play it on the PS2 there, whereas outside of Japan they only offered PC downloads of their latest expansion). It's all a wait-and-see for Square. What's the hold-up? Well, one of the issues is the fact you have to buy the game for every console you want to play on unless you 'upgrade' which then locks you out of the console you upgraded from. Then there's that not everyone's gone out to buy a PS4, I know I haven't. My PS3 still works and all the games I'm seriously considering on the PS4 won't be out till next year at the earliest so I think I can hold off on buying one just yet.

As for Microsoft's consoles... it's been said already, but seems to need repeating. XI on the 360 happened because Microsoft desperately wanted some measure of influence in Japan and who better than Square to give that. So they bent over backwards to make Square happy. Failed as every other measure before it. Microsoft won't make that move again, they want to control the game as it'd exist on their console and Square doesn't want that. Heck, Square got angry about the credit services they contracted to handle XIV 1.0's subscriptions charging international currency exchange fees, canceled the contracts and brought the subscription services in-house like they were doing with XI. Square does NOT want to charge more money than they have to for something as basic as subscription fees.

[16bitBounty]

"The policy has not changed on Microsoft's side," he revealed. "The main reason from our side is that I don't want the community to be divided; to be split into two or more. For example, one player might be on the PC version, another might be on the PS4 version, and I'm playing the Xbox version - but we're not able to join the same game servers. That is just... I just don't like the idea. I disagree with it."

"I would love for as many players as possible to enjoy the game worldwide, so from a business point of view it could make sense to have it on the Xbox platforms. But as I mentioned earlier, that would bring about the tragedy that somebody might have to give up their existing character. Then players might get frustrated, and then they ask us - 'Square Enix, can't you do something?' and then... yeah. Unless that happens, we can't really do anything."

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[Rhas]

XI did alright on 360 but I have a feeling it didn't have the impact M$ wanted.

XI happened just before they changed their policies with no cross server. MS actually hated the fact that you did not have to pay for Live to play a multiplayer game on their system... like all of their other multiplayer games.

It wasn't about impact so much as M$ wanting money for live subs.

Heck I even bought an xbox strictly so my wife could play XI when her computer broke (because it was cheaper than a new PC). Never paid for live the entire time she played.

Cross platform will never really be something MS is going to invest in (based on my opinion from when I worked for MS) because they want it all for themselves. They don't want to share. They don't want to play nice.

[Rhas]

Microsoft only cares about big numbers. To Microsoft 2 million is not impressive yet 5 million will make them reconsider and 10 million is a number they are forced to acknowledge.

If Yoshida really wants it on Microsoft's platform then he's really gonna have to consider making FFXIV 10 Million active players strong.

Sorry, but even that won't budge MS, or their policies on this

[Craiger]

Wii U port would be great because of the controls but please people stop begging for X1 port.

SE has stated several times that Microsoft will not allow for the sub plan to bypass the gold requirement and there's not going to be anything that can be done about that.
Also a multiplatform title has a very specific set of rules the release process must follow that XIV:ARR at this time has already irreversibly failed at by for example releasing the product on PC and ps3+4.

If you want ARR on X1 go send letters to Microsoft about it. This is absolutely not the place where port begging for it will do any good.

Wii U would be good, but so would X1....


Your point about paying for Xbox Live is pretty stupid actually... (no offense) Xbox Live costs very little actually, and if you play any other game online, you would pay it anyways.... If you play X1 without Xbox Live, you're missing out on 90% of the console.

The only problem with adding more consoles, are that we will get even more bad players and a-holes...

I'm not trying to undermine console players (I play on consoles too), but there are a lot of players on consoles that have never played an MMO before. Some are willing to learn, but a lot only plays it like any other RPG, and don't want others to interfere with that... in other words, they play the way they want, and if you true to help them out, they get angry and ignore/"attack" you....

I guess it's worth it in the end though... the playerbase will get much bigger

[Gilraen]

Wii U would be good, but so would X1....


Your point about paying for Xbox Live is pretty stupid actually... (no offense) Xbox Live costs very little actually, and if you play any other game online, you would pay it anyways.... If you play X1 without Xbox Live, you're missing out on 90% of the console.

The only problem with adding more consoles, are that we will get even more bad players and a-holes...

I'm not trying to undermine console players (I play on consoles too), but there are a lot of players on consoles that have never played an MMO before. Some are willing to learn, but a lot only plays it like any other RPG, and don't want others to interfere with that... in other words, they play the way they want, and if you true to help them out, they get angry and ignore/"attack" you....

I guess it's worth it in the end though... the playerbase will get much bigger

Live may not be expensive, but as has been the case in the past, Square does not want to force people to pay two subscriptions just to play their games. Sure, Live is a 'vital' part of the XBox experience, but it's not any part of the Final Fantasy MMO experience.

[Delmontyb]

Wii U port would be great because of the controls but please people stop begging for X1 port.

SE has stated several times that Microsoft will not allow for the sub plan to bypass the gold requirement and there's not going to be anything that can be done about that.
Also a multiplatform title has a very specific set of rules the release process must follow that XIV:ARR at this time has already irreversibly failed at by for example releasing the product on PC and ps3+4.

If you want ARR on X1 go send letters to Microsoft about it. This is absolutely not the place where port begging for it will do any good.

That's what these links on the front are all about, this thread is about voicing our support for Yoshio-P and letting Microsoft know.

[Delmontyb]

Just checked the two links, only 33 more votes needed on Change.org and have 170 votes on feedback.Xbox.com

Thanks for all the support so far, keep it up and lets let Phil Spencer know what we want.