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  1. #21
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    JTribal's Avatar
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    Josh Tribal
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    Yeah, Cover picks up debuffs for other bosses as well, T5 it grabs death sentence, Ifrit EX it takes debuffs, etc etc. Normally for fights that require tank swapping, I try to time it just right to prevent a swap before going into a new phase if I'm not planning on being MT for the upcoming phase (Titan Heart phase is a good example). Also, if timed right, this can cause stacks to drop on the other tank if the timer for the debuff is almost out. Some fights are easier than others to pull this off in, other fights like Ifrit EX I generally don't use it because the attack that gives you the debuff is less predictable. Just experiment a bit and you'll get the hang of it
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  2. #22
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    Alrik Rouge
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    That's actually another good idea on T5 if the MT is a WAR and OT is PLD. Take a debuff once or twice if you can. Why not? Could help keep things moving well.
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  3. #23
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    Lemon Nate
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AlrikRouge View Post
    That's actually another good idea on T5 if the MT is a WAR and OT is PLD. Take a debuff once or twice if you can. Why not? Could help keep things moving well.
    Because it will take the healer's focus away from the MT. Cover has a 12s duration which means it's entirely possible that you can take death sentence + auto-attack (not sure if plummet is physical or magical but I think it's physical). As OT PLD, you should have sword oath on and you can die if you try to cover the MT without cooldown popping/shield oath. IMO it's just better to have the MT manage their cooldown and take it. Storm's Path + Inner Beast is more than enough. You can circumvent Infirmity by Lustrate or stoneskin or a well-timed cure 2.

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    Alrik Rouge
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    Good call. May try it right free debuff hits.
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  5. #25
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    Alrik Rouge
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    Errr....right after. Can't edit from phone.
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  6. #26
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    Lolo Landerlu
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    A Whitemage saying Cover is useless. What's next, a Blackmage never using fire magic?
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  7. #27
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    Tercino Lascaille
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    Behemoth
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    As a healer, I would absolutely prefer you didn't do this unless it's an attack that would otherwise kill the MT. I will be precasting heals on the MT, and I already have a decent amount to pay attention to. If you throw in this then I also have to watch for the cover buff, start healing you, watch for it to wear off then switch back. Since you said the other healer's down, I'm also covering raid heals and dodging. I can keep the MT up through almost anything on Titan (provided they use cooldowns properly), but if you make it more unpredictable it makes my life harder.

    Cover does have it's uses, but it mainly helps for covering DPS/heals (they'll either be taking what for you is minimal damage or be about to die) and when you pre-plan the use (for example eating an MB to keep the MT going would be valid, but I want to know in advance).
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  8. #28
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    If there is at least one situation where X skill is useful, then it is not useless.

    Cover, as stated by many in this thread, is a good skill to use in specific situations. The healer did a dumb Medica II and got aggro. Someone didn't run into the shield during the Cyclops on Halatali HM. The healer needs to not be interrupted during a cast.

    Comparisons to One Ilm Punch are also unwarranted, as many people fail to see that the skill is perfectly usable and actually quite useful... outside of raids. It would actually be too useful if it could be used in raids, as boss buffs meant to make a mechanic unable to be ignored could successfully be ignored, thus making the Monk an even more required class than Bard in current content. As it is, it's kind of satisfying to be able to remove Stoneskin off of a FATE boss in a single punch, stop haste and featherfoot in their tracks, and potentially put some enemies in infinite loops of continually attempting to buff themselves instead of actually attacking you. Just like cover, it has its moments where it is useful.
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  9. #29
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I like cover and with the recent patch to it where you get a tether to you and the tank its much easier to see its effect. However I do feel that it needs to be on a shorter cool down. 90 seconds if not 60 would see more use of this niche but great skill. I can see this being used more often in coil if the cd was 90 sec.
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  10. #30
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    i dont know PVP and i dont care about it

    also talking about cover when healer spell might get cancelled

    you should know that cover wont work if the healer is more than 5 yalms away from you

    and no healer will risk going near tank regardless of using cover or not

    pointless skill is pointless just like MNK one Ilm punch

    maybe with longer range it will have some use but still not the decent way

    also if using cover when aoe coming means taking double damage and risking death to yourself
    I'm a healer and i get close to tanks whenever lol cuz it's not really that dangerous.
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