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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I have to ask, what exactly is your idea of an "MMORPG"? This is a core part of the genre, even going as far to say a core part of traditional RPGs in general. RPGs, even from the D&D board games era, all relied on what we now call RNG. It's a part of the genre itself that will never go away, similar to how being in first-person for an FPS will never go away. If you want guarantees (and to avoid the grind aspect entirely), RPGs are generally not your go-to genre... just saying.
    The insta-kill mechanics are a bit underhanded, but that's sort of the gamble you take when doing things solo without prior knowledge. Again, this is an MMORPG, and no one should overlook the fact that there very well may be mechanics that promote group play, though solo may still be an option with great care. Especially when it's content related to obtaining an endgame item.
    My Idea of an MMORPG is playing with friends/peopel i meet on the game and to have fun playing not spend my time farming X dungeon for 3 hours to get the item i need to upgrade my gear.

    I really liked the old Relic quest where you had to go and defeat primal hard Mode's, it made getting the relic something of an achievement you could use. When i was levelling I would look to the level 50 Paladins in all Valor Gear and Relic Zenith and be like "I will get that weapon someday." And when i got it after a month on Titan HM (when it was almost impossible to do in DF in my experience anyway) i got it and I felt like i had accomplished something, I had defeated; Garuda, Ifrit and Titan and gathered enough Philosophy Tomes to purchase this iconic weapon.

    Now with Animus/Novus anyone can get them, they just need to be able to farm 1500 myth for Animus and do a daily map and (not die ><) they have Animus/Novus.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Eri- View Post
    Please ' Original Relic ' as i remember it that was back in the Old Version.
    And that had harder Grinds. Also, the Quest didn't tell you to go alone?

    Im mean i'm not for oneshot mechanics, i hate them.
    However every boss battle with unforgiving mechanics is no fun to me.

    But your not forced to go solo for the map or anything.
    If by Old Version you mean 1.0 then i wouldn't know only been playing 5 months, and if you mean XI then if I want to go experience the "Hard" quest to get Relic I would go play it and not ARR. (Was not meant to be offensive if that's what it sounds like)

    Not forced but when i ask people they are all busy and with prior experience of Soloing i thought i could.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Did you assume that a Map, which is equal to 800 myth, would be as easy as a normal map?



    I was lucky so far and won all. All the way DRG and getting used to them. The bombs is something i did encounter 2 days ago for second time and they are HP based it seems. as soon as they appeared i killed them asap and they did not blow up at all.

    But yeah.. i love those maps.
    I did not assume it would be easy if I did i would have gone as my PLD and sat and tanked. I go as SCH because i have the option to let my pet heal me and buff while i DPS and i can Lustrate if shit hit the fan.

    All in all some good feed back

    I too like the map's and the way you can get them, you can either do a Daily or go farm 800 myth, I'm not that bothered about losing the myth as I had just accumulated that over time by helping friends and doing the dailies. What got me was the underhanded way the bombs did their attack. There was no "Skill bar" to say they was doing an attack they just sat there, I thought they buffed the boss so I went in and DoT them up (which was my mistake).

    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    I have to ask, what exactly is your idea of an "MMORPG"? This is a core part of the genre, even going as far to say a core part of traditional RPGs in general. RPGs, even from the D&D board games era, all relied on what we now call RNG. It's a part of the genre itself that will never go away, similar to how being in first-person for an FPS will never go away. If you want guarantees (and to avoid the grind aspect entirely), RPGs are generally not your go-to genre... just saying.

    The insta-kill mechanics are a bit underhanded, but that's sort of the gamble you take when doing things solo without prior knowledge. Again, this is an MMORPG, and no one should overlook the fact that there very well may be mechanics that promote group play, though solo may still be an option with great care. Especially when it's content related to obtaining an endgame item.
    Quote Originally Posted by -Eri- View Post
    Please ' Original Relic ' as i remember it that was back in the Old Version.
    And that had harder Grinds. Also, the Quest didn't tell you to go alone?

    Im mean i'm not for oneshot mechanics, i hate them.
    However every boss battle with unforgiving mechanics is no fun to me.

    But your not forced to go solo for the map or anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Did you assume that a Map, which is equal to 800 myth, would be as easy as a normal map?



    I was lucky so far and won all. All the way DRG and getting used to them. The bombs is something i did encounter 2 days ago for second time and they are HP based it seems. as soon as they appeard i killed them asap and they did not blow up at all.

    But yeah.. i love those maps.
    Quote Originally Posted by EpicCid View Post
    I have not had this map yet but I have had some where I was petrified or immobilized for 20 seconds. Extremely frustrating but I'm glad to see some new stuff that keeps me on my toes.
    I had that one but i was as tank so i could shrug off the damage. The worst is the one with the Morbal, He will Bind you the use Bad Breath so have a stun ready or a Leeches/Esuna for the Bind then GTFO lol
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    Last edited by Ami_Kaede; 06-14-2014 at 07:20 AM.