No morale in Frontlines?

[Rawk]

If this is confirmed 100% true, this is absurd and we need to speak up about it. I understand there are those that will start pvp with frontlines, but let's basically screw over everyone that actually liked pvp in the first place, just so a few can try it out and then quit later because "this game isn't a pvp game". I'm super outraged, and everyone else should be. Before its released we need to really make this an issue that SE needs to be aware of. Why would pvp gear even exist? If PvE gear will ultimately be better because pvp looses a stat, there is no point and my grind is useless.

I feel like they did not value my time, they did not value the fact that I actually like pvp, and they certainly didn't value all the money spent on materia melding on said gear.

I'm mad, and you should be too.

[Shake0615]

The fact of the matter is that SE reneged on a promise. The promise was that if we worked for PvP gear then that gear would be useful on the PvP battlefield. With the elimination of morale in Frontlines, we lose a crucial 4th stat on our gear which means that any PvE piece of the same item level is now superior in PvP situations. And with the fact that Glamours do not appear in arena, I doubt that they would work in Frontlines either. If that’s the case then the PvP gear that exists now serves absolutely zero purpose after a long and tiresome grind of trying to obtain them. If morale is no longer factored in, then I expect that 4th stat to be replaced with something worthwhile.

[Epistane]

If this is confirmed 100% true, this is absurd and we need to speak up about it. I understand there are those that will start pvp with frontlines, but let's basically screw over everyone that actually liked pvp in the first place, just so a few can try it out and then quit later because "this game isn't a pvp game". I'm super outraged, and everyone else should be. Before its released we need to really make this an issue that SE needs to be aware of. Why would pvp gear even exist? If PvE gear will ultimately be better because pvp looses a stat, there is no point and my grind is useless.

I feel like they did not value my time, they did not value the fact that I actually like pvp, and they certainly didn't value all the money spent on materia melding on said gear.

I'm mad, and you should be too.

Well said man. Let's hope they are reading this.... Bring this over to general forums IMO

[Ryuko]

If this is true, I am very disappointed. I was looking forward to frontlines because objective-based PvP has always been more fun to me. I don't really like arena, but I was doing it to gear up in preparation for frontlines. I suppose they want people to be on 'equal footing' when starting frontlines, but then what is the point of doing it besides the soldiery they said you could get from it?

[Spyrit]

Without actual confirmation, it's a matter of he said, she said, I'm going to guess if in fact this is to bring up to speed those new to pvp, i'll wager rank caps will be brought in, in future patches. There is also the missing 8v8, have to wait and see.

[Pibz]

I suppose they want people to be on 'equal footing' when starting frontlines, but then what is the point of doing it besides the soldiery they said you could get from it?

You get to have fun? I dunno about you but i play the game to have fun not to hoard gear. Most pvp(ie multiplayer) games don't reward you anything like better gear from winning a match all you get is more experience of the mechanics and how to play or also commonly very minor and easy to get upgrades and vanity stuff.
Also keep in mind ranks will still be in effect and so will pvp abilities, so there is that.

[ZenTao]

our voices should be heard. I am optimistic that if SE notice the uproar in community for this decision they would reverse it or at least modify it so we might get ilvl80 capped but the morale effect would still be there etc.

[rappa]

My first impression, this is a crap because players who are going to wolves' den and playing pvp are not rewarded and SE left us to one side.
Frontlines will bring news fresh meats on pvp, but just players who want stay hide a wall of players and spam theirs rotations meanwhile they are watching a tv serie.

What is the reason to reach rank 40 now, if we haven't the chance to use pvp gear in a pvp scenary(without wolves' den)?

I know, SE doesn't want new players become overwhelmed by others well geared from pvp but play pvp now, sound like a waste of time.

I am upset too.

[ZenTao]

I would think now on second thought, this would be temporary to get new players into pvp and then just patch it later once more people are geared in pvp so that Morale will have an effect again. but thats just wishful thinking isnt?

[Spyrit]

Something to consider too maybe there are rank capped frontlines, because Yoshi pointed out that duty finder needed to be overhauled for front lines, I find it hard to believe it would need much work just for one front line.