Novus weapon upgrade system findings

[JayCommon]

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I'm fine with people speculating, but this thread was supposed to be a compilation of "Thread: Novus weapon upgrade system findings" and basically the last multiple pages is plain conjecture with no absolutely no facts behind it, besides Shea doing an excellent job of posting his Infusions. Nothing in the game states a Relic weapon needs to follow the same stat distribution as other weapons in the game. It is making it very tough to find concrete facts behind this system when I have to browse through all of this baseless nonsense.

The concern is valid (regarding the DET stat weight) but it shouldn't be devolving this thread. I'm sure OP could update his/her cover page better if he/she didn't have to skim through all of the speculation.

[Arkista]

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I don't have much to contribute cause, I'm going down the Crit path first and I already posted those. People are here to find out real info about how it works. My LS had a debate for over an hour on the subject this morning. All it did was confuse others. This whole DET thing is about as valid as Rogue/Ninja using DEX. There is no proof any where that makes either correct, in fact they have both been proven incorrect.

Unless you have proof, what you think and what I/Donjo think have equal weights. Either can be the false information.

Please direct me to where this has been proven either way.

Well here is the proof that DET does not Cap At 22. Again no offence, But what you and Donjo claim is false. The factual evidence is right in the Sphere Scroll, It has the Caps of each stat.

[Lemon8or]

Well here is the proof that DET does not Cap At 22.

I or Donjo never claimed Determination caps at 22 naturally, aka i110 can only have 22 det on it. We even put out the example of the Book of Spades, i110 with 31 det so the natural cap for Determination is 31. I'm not arguing with you on that. However, what I'm arguing with you about is that 1 or 2 combination of stats on Novus (involving Det and Pie) will allow capping of 2 secondary stats while other combinations will not, for example skill speed and crit, both cap at 44, both can't reach cap of 44 since you only have 75 infusions. I'm done arguing with you. We'll see when Shea or someone finishes a Novus weapon with Det or Pie on it.

[Gallus]

I or Donjo never claimed Determination caps at 22 naturally, aka i110 can only have 22 det on it.

But you claimed that if it didn't it would be stupid and unbalanced, which kinda showed how much you discredit anything that differs from your opinion. The irony here is that there are more reasons to think it is going to be a 44/31 than a 44/22...because we have a scroll that shows it...and you have, nothing. Also, I'm going to tell you the same I told Donjo. Take the Astral Ring HQ as an example. It's piety caps at 6, its Critical caps at 12 and it's vitality caps at 9. Can you cap all those stats? Yes you can. Does any of those stats decrease its cap because you cap the other ones? No, it doesn't. Problem? It would probably take millions of gils if you wanted to do so because overmelding + RNG = a nightmare. Also, the Novus has NO precedence. First time you can customize the stats of your relic.

[Donjo]

But you claimed that if it didn't it would be stupid and unbalanced, which kinda showed how much you discredit anything that differs from your opinion. The irony here is that there are more reasons to think it is going to be a 44/31 than a 44/22...because we have a scroll that shows it...and you have, nothing. Also, I'm going to tell you the same I told Donjo. Take the Astral Ring HQ as an example. It's piety caps at 6, its Critical caps at 12 and it's vitality caps at 9. Can you cap all those stats? Yes you can. Does any of those stats decrease its cap because you cap the other ones? No, it doesn't. Problem? It would probably take millions of gils if you wanted to do so because overmelding + RNG = a nightmare. Also, the Novus has NO precedence. First time you can customize the stats of your relic.

Hey, just because it's unbalanced doesn't mean SE won't do it. I don't think that was ever said. I'm going to be confused and somewhat irritated if some people get a better Novus than others just because they chose the "correct" stats, sure, but I'm not flat out denying that you can break the caps with the Novus. I'm just saying that you might not actually be able to. Customizable Stats or no, no Blue or Purple item has ever broken its secondary stat cap. The fact that Green Crafted items can is the actual incentive to acquire them while on the path to the better top iLvl items of the patch.

[Nekodar]

Customizable Stats or no, no Blue or Purple item has ever broken its secondary stat cap. The fact that Green Crafted items can is the actual incentive to acquire them while on the path to the better top iLvl items of the patch.

Please point to the Blue and Purple items other than Novus that have customizable stats.