NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[Chiramu]

Because thief was going to be the class anyway. thats kind of what you can infer from that.

The class behind the job means nothing, you are the job not the class :P. THF would probably come in much later though, I can't imagine a class to be level 15 in to match 30 rogue. Ninja would be 30 rogue and 15 THM most probably, but without the new classes, what would THF be with 30 rogue? :P

They are working on the expansion.

[Duelle]

Wait... Why would there need to be a Thieves Guild? Jobs don't have Guilds...

You're confusing the concept of an in-game guild with the idea of a thieves' guild, which is not exclusive to final fantasy. Fantasy tends to show the thieves' guild as a criminal (or at the least morally-questionable) organization. Think along the lines of the Thieves' Guild in Oblivion, whose existence was generally seen as a myth for a good chunk of the storyline. It was a group that was so secretive people doubted their existence, and that's the sort of angle that would work for a thieves' guild in Eorzea.

Not your standard marauder's guild with banners, but the type of organization you'd have to look real hard for to actually find. Not state-sanctioned, but independent and solely for story purposes. Besides, I'm sure some individuals would get a kick out of being part of a job storyline where you're either finding treasure to prove your skills or sticking it to "the man" by stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.

[Cynric]

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Im sorry that really didn't make any sense to me at all. The base class Rogue would instead have been named Thief, the only thing that they changed from the original plan was the name. it would of just been tHF> nin instead of rog>nin.

I still think Thieves should use boomerangs but hey thats me! As far as thf coming from two other classes i'm not sure. Every iteration of thief just has that base class feel to it. you get to steal, and do damage, poison or debuff, but to do more you change jobs, thats how its always been and how they designed rogue. If I had to say Ninja I'd say acn, because debuffs,poison, it fits the theme. Thf if I must say um.. maybe glad for better weapons training? Not really sure with what we currently have.

[Mook_Mook]

Id love to be thief in title I just like the thief for well RP reasons I guess, but since rogue is basically thief class, I cant complain, it should be well done and be pretty cool . I hope its mp and tp management....a guy can dream >.>

[Cynric]

it's a generalization of what the Class is, in this case someone who uses poisons; a rouge. They do that so that they can leave Classes open to as many Jobs as possible, Rouge => Thief is no different than Thaumaturge/Gladiator/Marauder => Dark Knight, or any potential Jobs you could fit onto the current Classes. They've always gone with Jobs being the popularized core (sorry Tactics fans) Final Fantasy Jobs, they were never going to make the Thief the Class just so we could go "JUST LIKE FINAL FANTASY I HURHUR!".

Rogues are dishonest... basically thieves or con men. They have little to do with poisons or even actually killing anybody. Most classes or characters that deal with poisons are called Assassin's. WoW is the only rogue I know of that uses tons of poison.

You're really grasping at the straws of hope and I understand it. But it's called Rogue and frankly.. it really doesn't matter what it's called as long as it plays like a thief anyway.

[Kinseykinz]

So wait: IF they called the Rogue a THF, then people would be happy...even if not a single skill/attack/action was changed....but they call it Rogue, give a valid reason why they decided to call it that, and people are upset?

You got the class/role you wanted

A rose by any other name man....

[Reynhart]

I guess you never visited Uldah, and how all the leaders steal and murder people in power and weak citizens. But a Thief is impossible to place in this world? lol

Right, we should legalize robbing, blackmailing and death-threatening because politicians do that. Wait a minute...

[Cynric]

So wait: IF they called the Rogue a THF, then people would be happy...even if not a single skill/attack/action was changed....but they call it Rogue, give a valid reason why they decided to call it that, and people are upset?

You got the class/role you wanted

A rose by any other name man....

You know it's always the little details that get sweat here. But maybe that just means there isn't a bunch of big stuff to be concerned about (or its ignored) who knows. lol

Also when you put it so simply like that it sounds even more ridiculous. All this fuss over a name

[Reynhart]

They've always gone with Jobs being the popularized core (sorry Tactics fans) Final Fantasy Jobs, they were never going to make the Thief the Class just so we could go "JUST LIKE FINAL FANTASY I HURHUR!".

They've always done that...because the base was already designed in 1.0 by the previous team.
Nothing can stop the new team from doing differently

[Zoeila]

this has completely destroyed my faith in this game. they would rather do fan wank than stuff that makes sense.