Please change "marriage" name for "Menphina's Pledge"

[Yumi_umi]

This statement is baffling. Unless you're generalizing based on an example of poor behavior. Otherwise...

I mean the to the extreme like when you get stopped by jehova's witnesses when you are waiting for the bus.
They force it on you and won't take no for an answer till you say it like you hate em.
I guess you could say it's like the irony of extreme feminists.
Anywaysssss.
Marriage is a fun thing for the groom, bride and everyone who is attending.
Also if the game's lore for some reason doesn't like same sex marriage then no big deal.

*A guy plays a girl character and a girl plays a girl character. They both get married, so is that considered same sex or both gender marriage?
No one really cares about which side we pick cuz we all just want marriage to be an option for ppl who choose to do it.

[Yumi_umi]

Snipitty snip snip.

Haha lol i feel like a goof for responding to a baited argument.
My bad guys. σ^_^;
But yea i think if SE does take the lore route, they\\'ll probably further enhance it and make it more apparent as ppl like me who haven\\'t read up on lore are pretty out of the loop. In otherwords, they\\'ll most likely expand it into more easier to understand details. Something similar to how they explained levi during 2.2.

[Kuwagami]

slightly off topic but does anyone else want to find out the gods are basically just the same as primals in a new expansion? i.e: born from the faith of races? i really would if only for the simple following of anti-religion tradition in FF games XD

Actually I gave some thoughts on that, and I have a theory :
(some major story spoilers, so I hid that)

Primals are summoned by crystals and the call of their worshipers when they are in despair. Yet recently, the Ascians are wrecking havoc, making a lot of Primals being summoned in short amounts of time. In the lore, they do it in order to bring chaos upon the world, which would lead them to destroy Hydaelyn the usurper and witness the birth of their one true god, Zodiark. On the ending CS of 2.0 arc, we see Zodiark as a dark purple Hydaelyn-like crystal.

Now the thoughts :
=> The Twelve aren't that different from Primals in essence. We worship them as the tribes worship their Primals (and consider them as gods), they have consciousness, and actually the Ala migans tried to summon one of them (Rhalgr) using the same ritual as the tribes.

=> Hydaelyn is a gigantic Aetheric crystal. She has her own consciousness and represents the core and the soul of the planet, but is not that different from the elemental crystals (they are souls crystallized. Hydaelyn is a gigantic crystallized soul.)



What if... The goal of the Ascians was to make Eorzeans despair by devastating their country (Bahamut, Primals summoned regularly...), making them more and more willing to call the gods to help them. Considering their number, the plan might be to make the Eorzeans resonate with Hydaelyn and call forth the Twelve to Eorzea's defense. Now, by killing some of the Twelve (no matter how they would do it), Eorzea's will would crumble, all hope would vanish.

The resulting despair would taint Hydaelyn, slowly poisoning her with despair, hate and fear, turning her in a chaotic state where the gods would lose their love for Eorzeans, and would just decide to annihilate them all, along with the beast tribes (ala FFVII). To prevent that, we would obviously be charged to kill more gods (in Ascians' Machiavellian plans), thus resulting in Hydaelyn sinking more and more in hate, despair and fear. In the end, Hydaelyn would be overwhelmed by her dark side, and Zodiark would be born, reversing the world's order.


Now save the world and prevent that, warrior of the light !!

[Kuwagami]

little bump for incoming live letters.

[SirDiscoFrog]

Guys....they just comfirmed it wont be limited to gender YAY!
It was said around 2:29:30
Idk if this will work but heres a link to the E3 2014 Live Day 1 where it was said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMayL...are&t=2h29m23s

[Kuwagami]

Haha, I did hear that, and I did hear the translator's words being "people who pledge together"

Might be just translator's words, might be a coincidence, but maybe this suggestion has reached dev's nest.

Keep up the lore love guys ೖ(⑅σ̑ᴗσ̑)ೖ

[Cherie]

The flying spaghetti monster allows people to marry anyone or anything you want.

He is the only one you need to worry about. :P

Seriously though, it sounds like from the live letter everyone is sort of getting what they wanted... Personally I don't care about the marriage thing at all other than it is clogging the forums! I really don't think this issue is a deal at all to worry about from either side of it. Who cares what people do in video games... Shouldn't people that are religious be concerned more with the fact that they are practicing witchcraft in the game? Casing fireballs to throw at your foes is a magic spell you know. No getting around that! :P

I'm glad they finally made a official decision on it.

[Kuwagami]

The flying spaghetti monster allows people to marry anyone or anything you want.

Yeah, there was a Lalafellin wanting to marry her toaster. I'm sure she would want to meet that flying spaghetti monster

Anyway, I edited the OP, this thread has become a lore thread

[scarebearz]

Can't believe I read the opening Post.

Nonsense in my opinion. O.o

[scarletfoxxy]

anyone Asexual is definitely discriminated against!